Wesser wrote: » Id be careful about doing that. Your DOB will be recorded incorrectly in the covax system and therefore wint march your passport so you wont have a valid e certificate to travel abroad. Also the data wont match your GPs system so will bounce back so your gp wont know you are vaccinated. The civax system is enroling a new age group every day, ie moving down one year every day. For the sake of waiting one day, not worth it.
krissovo wrote: » Turn up at your vaccination center, take proof of being group 7 and there is a good chance they will sort you out. There is a growing list on here who have done the same and have been vaccinated.
suisi wrote: » Does anyone know what time most of the MVCs open until in the evenings?
fun loving criminal wrote: » I am in group 7, same issues as the rest that fall into group 7, gp not vaccinating, being told to wait by age. .
krissovo wrote: » Being high risk I was fine the last 14 months, I could manage my own destiny but I noticed a major change in attitudes of the public and my own family in the last 4 weeks which is increasing risk for the remaining vulnerable as the general public are starting to go into frenzy that its all opening up and yes for the many the risk is diminishing but those still at risk its quite scary. In my own family now the grandparents, uncles and aunties are vaccinated all rules are off the table, brothers/sisters are back to work. They are now having parties for kids, mass family gatherings that are turning into drunken parties with zero social distancing. This is what fueled me to take action and I do not want them to stop or prevent my kids from joining that fun.
iamwhoiam wrote: » The groups 4 and 7 were deemed high risk by NIAC and the experts then and now .Unless the risk has changed then they are still at risk and should be prioritised .Its that easy really because the message hasnt changed just the priority it seems . This thread was great for helpful ideas or how to get a vaccine for the at risk group .Now it seems they have to justify why they are at risk and why ?
is_that_so wrote: » Why do posters insist on inventing things that are neither alluded to nor expressly stated in posts? This is all in your head I'm afraid. You seem to be dug in on this position, that's fine and I get the point about the lack of fairness but I'll ask the one question I've repeated more than once on this. Why has the risk to certain groups suddenly become greater at a time when the prevalence of the disease is declining?
is_that_so wrote: » Why has the risk to certain groups suddenly become greater at a time when the prevalence of the disease is declining?
Unrealistic wrote: » You made a statement that the HSE's approach "makes sense". There is no doubt that the effect of the HSE's approach is putting people that the HSE has defined as being "at high risk of severe disease and death" at the back of the queue. So it's definitely not "all in (my) head". It's the logical outcome of what you are advocating.
is_that_so wrote: » Why do posters insist on inventing things that are neither alluded to nor expressly stated in posts? This is all in your head I'm afraid.
is_that_so wrote: » You seem to be dug in on this position, that's fine and I get the point about the lack of fairness but I'll ask the one question I've repeated more than once on this. Why has the risk to certain groups suddenly become greater at a time when the prevalence of the disease is declining?
Unrealistic wrote: » So you are happy to tell an 18 year old, whose chronic illness puts them "at high risk of severe disease and death" in the HSE's own words, that they should wait another couple of months and hope for the best while hundreds of thousands of healthy people get vaccinated ahead of them? Even GPs who are willing to vaccinate Cohort 7 and the remainder of Cohort 4 aren't getting the doses they need. There is clearly a deliberate policy to override the published priority lists and focus on getting the maximum number of jabs in arms through calling the general population to MVCs. That the HSE doesn't acknowledge this and justify the change in policy, but instead is relying on PR fudges to try to obscure the issue, further damages its already poor reputation.
is_that_so wrote: » Given that we are now mostly into the 40s, with the under 40s coming in maybe next week it makes sense. My impression is that the HSE always assumed that groups 4/7 would be addressed by GPs, but with some backing out after Group 4 there had no easy process to work out what to do with those remaining apart from by age.
Unrealistic wrote: » 1) I think it's not so much of a case that the HSE have acknowledged that the date was wrong but rather that the HSE pushed the story that the data was wrong as a self-serving PR response the day after this issue first blew up on social media. 2) Even if you take the HSE's numbers at face value only a maximum of 10% of the Cohort 7 would have been erroneously included in Cohort 4. So at least 90% of Cohort 7 were still unvaccinated, many with no path to being vaccinated, when the HSE started its big push to vaccinate healthy people ahead of them. 3) The HSE rushed through an online module, that was to piggyback on the blood test portal that GPs use, where they could register patients from Cohort 4 or Cohort 7. That failed with the ransomware attack, fair enough, but the main vaccine portal is run by Salesforce and is still working. That the task of adding on a module to that portal for Cohort 4 and Cohort 7 hasn't been given to Salesforce is a huge missed opportunity and an illustration of the lack of priority being accorded to this problem by the HSE. 4) Misleading press releases by the HSE compound the problem and suggest they are more interested in a PR solution than a real solution. How cynical is it to push the story that High Risk people will be allowed to register on the portal and then later issue a clarification that the people at High Risk, and aged 45 to 49, will be able to register with everyone else aged 45 to 49 and anyone younger and High Risk will continue to be ignored. 5) Ranting on social media does have an affect. The news story about Cohort 7 people being included in Cohort 4 was clearly a reaction to the explosion on social media. The social media explosion was then picked up by journalists and their questioning was instrumental in the announcement that GPs would be given a path to book vaccines for patients through the HSE's IT system. I've written my local TDs, and received responses from all, but the feedback I'm getting does not give the impression that it will actually change anything. The social media push, and having that picked up by the media, has made a concrete difference in at least getting the HSE to acknowledge the issue, even if their response so far is PR based rather than practical. 6) I've got my first dose so I'm not concerned on behalf of myself but I believe it is grossly inequitable that younger people with serious illnesses are not getting vaccinated while hundreds of thousands of healthy people my age are being vaccinated ahead of them. The fact that some Cohort 4/7 patients are able to blag their way to a vaccine through the helpline doesn't change that. Some unofficial pot luck successes don't excuse the fact that there is a significant systemic problem that the HSE is not addressing. The HSE's actions suggest that they are taking a view that everyone in Cohort 7 will get vaccinated by the end of July anyway, and it's not worth the hassle of trying to prioritise them, but they just don't have the balls to say it.
is_that_so wrote: » The HSE have acknowledged that data is wrong and that some were wrongly added to group 4 instead. That journalist should know that but why let it get in the way of a story. IMO that is a pretty ridiculous attention seeking hashtag. As we've seen on the appointment thread people are more than capable of pushing the HSE via the helpline. TDs are also a good outlet for publicising things. Either of the two is likely to be of more use than venting on social media.
ShineOn7 wrote: » The number has definitely improved on this one below We just don't know by how much and - based on this thread and #theforgottencohort on Twitter - many are still being ignoredhttps://twitter.com/irishexaminer/status/1399261876324818952
Marine Layer wrote: » Its very easy to chat to people in the car park and the queue at an MVC and they will tell you what vaccine is on their texts Ditto friends or family going to the same centre Nobody has signed a non disclosure
Marine Layer wrote: » Interesting and frightening I wonder as roll out continues world wide are tabs being kept on all immunocompromised types ?
Wolf359f wrote: » It seems to be all down to the medication/treatments. Not all immune suppressed people would be on the same treatment. There's a little detail here:https://www.advisory.com/en/daily-briefing/2021/04/20/immunocompromised With figures and comparations.
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