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Will the Rovers ever Return? Your pub megathread, Part 2 - threadbans in OP

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Thread 1 - Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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hynesie08

Cork2021 wrote: »

Who do you think gave failte Ireland the advice? Come on!!!

Failte Ireland's big plan pre pandemic was "the majestic Midlands" and making Offaly a tourist destination. This idea is on the mild side of stupid for them.

mikekerry

Degag wrote: »

Can’t say i agree with time limits potentially coming back. Just let pubs open and trade and stop the messing about.

This is gone beyond madness now.
Are they deliberately trying to shut the hospitality down?
If so they are doing a great job.

PTH2009

Indoor only time limits ?

Jesus christ why do we make ridiculous rules in this country ?

Before the usual suspects come along and shoot me down, I have right to be mad with the stupid rules that they always inflict on us.

hynesie08

PTH2009 wrote: »

Indoor only time limits ?

Jesus christ why do we make ridiculous rules in this country ?

I know you don't wake up before noon, but it was failte Ireland and publicans idea.

[Deleted User]

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0525/1223696-guidelines-hospitality-sector/

And the so the inevitable climbdown on indoor hospitality begins, already pushing it out to an undefined date:

"Taoiseach Micheál Martin indicated yesterday that this may not happen in the first week of July and he said it remains the case that outdoors is best."

Effectively the same con job as last summer, tease traditional publicans with a full reopening plan only to kick can down the road repeatedly. They must be laughing at us in the North, more so at the ridiculous and unenforceable time constraints proposed. Moral of the story, our authoritarian leaders can't trust Paddy to hold his porter.

stephenjmcd

[Deleted User] wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0525/1223696-guidelines-hospitality-sector/

And the so the inevitable climbdown on indoor hospitality begins, already pushing it out to an undefined date:

"Taoiseach Micheál Martin indicated yesterday that this may not happen in the first week of July and he said it remains the case that outdoors is best."

Effectively the same con job as last summer, tease traditional publicans with a full reopening plan only to kick can down the road repeatedly. They must be laughing at us in the North, more so at the ridiculous and unenforceable time constraints proposed. Moral of the story, our authoritarian leaders can't trust Paddy to hold his porter.

Said it yesterday and I'll say it again how is it a climbdown or pushing out a date when a date was never given in the first place. Publicans asked for the 1st of July, they were told no, why? Well because in general there's 4 weeks between opening stages, that brings us to the weeks beginning either the 5th July or 12th July depending when the review date is pencilled in for (a week before the 4 weeks or the week of 4 weeks to open week after review)

Both dates tie in with the first half of July expectation that was given for indoor, there doesn't look to be any change on that front and we should know more come Friday in terms of dates

We'll be back supping on pints outdoors from 7th June and indoors either the 5th or 12th of July and I can't wait for both dates.

TheDoctor

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Said it yesterday and I'll say it again how is it a climbdown or pushing out a date when a date was never given in the first place. Publicans asked for the 1st of July, they were told no, why? Well because in general there's 4 weeks between opening stages, that brings us to the weeks beginning either the 5th July or 12th July depending when the review date is pencilled in for (a week before the 4 weeks or the week of 4 weeks to open week after review)

Both dates tie in with the first half of July expectation that was given for indoor, there doesn't look to be any change on that front and we should know more come Friday in terms of dates

We'll be back supping on pints outdoors from 7th June and indoors either the 5th or 12th of July and I can't wait for both dates.

Indoor pints on the 12th of July.

There'll be parades all over the country!

Mick the irishman

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Said it yesterday and I'll say it again how is it a climbdown or pushing out a date when a date was never given in the first place. Publicans asked for the 1st of July, they were told no, why? Well because in general there's 4 weeks between opening stages, that brings us to the weeks beginning either the 5th July or 12th July depending when the review date is pencilled in for (a week before the 4 weeks or the week of 4 weeks to open week after review)

Both dates tie in with the first half of July expectation that was given for indoor, there doesn't look to be any change on that front and we should know more come Friday in terms of dates

We'll be back supping on pints outdoors from 7th June and indoors either the 5th or 12th of July and I can't wait for both dates.

Was in Newry today for a few pints myself, more people from the Republic in the bar than Northerners. LH and D cars everywhere.

saabsaab

They could open indoors earlier if the rule was to have open windows for ventilation. Makes sense to me.

sp00k

So the latest now is that there will be a 105 minute time limit indoors if tables are less than 2 metres apart, and no time limit if tables are 2 metres or more apart. What a load of rubbish, as if any publican will enforce that. Will the Gardai be coming around with a measuring tape?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/105-minute-limit-on-the-table-for-indoor-dining-when-failte-ireland-releases-recommendations-for-pubs-and-restaurants-today-40467529.html

Pintman Paddy Losty

Really looking forward to a nice meal and pint this summer. Mussels and a pint of Guinness on the West coast is one of my favourite things.

There is concerning data around the effectiveness of one dose against the Indian variant. As low as 33%. Personally I think that pushing indoor until closer to September when there are more fully vaccinated would be wiser. Obviously we might have to contend with schools opening and unvaccinated children mixing then. But it's too soon to call.

Government taking the right approach in going cautiously ahead. If it's an outdoor summer, then so be it. I'd rather that than a repeat of the scenes from the start of this year.

[Deleted User]

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Really looking forward to a nice meal and pint this summer. Mussels and a pint of Guinness on the West coast is one of my favourite things.

There is concerning data around the effectiveness of one dose against the Indian variant. As low as 33%. Personally I think that pushing indoor until closer to September when there are more fully vaccinated would be wiser. Obviously we might have to contend with schools opening and unvaccinated children mixing then. But it's too soon to call.

Government taking the right approach in going cautiously ahead. If it's an outdoor summer, then so be it. I'd rather that than a repeat of the scenes from the start of this year.

More than two millions vaccinations have been administered, compared to zero at start of year. So much for your "repeat of scenes", such a disingenuous take rather undermines the rest of your post. Which was lacking credibility anyway, September is a ridiculous estimate.

Coillte_Bhoy

Cork2021 wrote: »

Who do you think gave failte Ireland the advice? Come on!!!

I imagine they managed to come up with the guidelines al by themselves. ffs is everything a conspiracy with you lot?

Coillte_Bhoy

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0525/1223696-guidelines-hospitality-sector/

And the so the inevitable climbdown on indoor hospitality begins, already pushing it out to an undefined date:

"Taoiseach Micheál Martin indicated yesterday that this may not happen in the first week of July and he said it remains the case that outdoors is best."

Effectively the same con job as last summer, tease traditional publicans with a full reopening plan only to kick can down the road repeatedly. They must be laughing at us in the North, more so at the ridiculous and unenforceable time constraints proposed. Moral of the story, our authoritarian leaders can't trust Paddy to hold his porter.

How is there a climbdown when there had been no date given for indoors anyway?

Mick the irishman

No announcement today getting reported now. The Government are a shambles.

M_Murphy57

Mick the irishman wrote: »

No announcement today getting reported now. The Government are a shambles.

It's not due until friday? What are you reading ?

stephenjmcd

Mick the irishman wrote: »

No announcement today getting reported now. The Government are a shambles.

There's nothing due until Friday anyway.

We all know what the guidelines are, that's not a government announcement

hynesie08

Mick the irishman wrote: »

No announcement today getting reported now. The Government are a shambles.

There's none due......

Degag

sp00k wrote: »

So the latest now is that there will be a 105 minute time limit indoors if tables are less than 2 metres apart, and no time limit if tables are 2 metres or more apart. What a load of rubbish, as if any publican will enforce that. Will the Gardai be coming around with a measuring tape?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/105-minute-limit-on-the-table-for-indoor-dining-when-failte-ireland-releases-recommendations-for-pubs-and-restaurants-today-40467529.html

I've been pretty supportive of the various measures taken thus far. This is just annoying. Let pubs decide their own time limits when they open. Frustrating.

hynesie08

Degag wrote: »

I've been pretty supportive of the various measures taken thus far. This is just annoying. Let pubs decide their own time limits when they open. Frustrating.

They will, no way can the gardai enforce this in every pub in the country.

Some pubs won't bother.

Some will, and will have 5-6 sittings a day, and can blame the government.

The government have their scape goat if anything goes tits up (evil publicans breaking the rules)

It's a tick the boxes exercise that actually benefits everyone.

Itssoeasy

stephenjmcd wrote: »

There's nothing due until Friday anyway.

We all know what the guidelines are, that's not a government announcement

Will goodbody was saying on rte news that there were guidelines expected today for indoor dinning and they haven’t been published.

Mick the irishman

hynesie08 wrote: »

There's none due......

The failte Ireland plans regarding seating, time limits etc was due today as the Govt didn't sign off on it

Whats the rush like, poor business owners

hynesie08

Mick the irishman wrote: »

The failte Ireland plans regarding seating, time limits etc was due today

What does that have to do with the government?

stephenjmcd

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Will goodbody was saying on rte news that there were guidelines expected today for indoor dinning and they haven’t been published.

And said poster said "government are a shambles".. the government weren't announcing anything today.

Mick the irishman

stephenjmcd wrote: »

And said poster said "government are a shambles".. the government weren't announcing anything today.

The reason the plans are not released is because the Govt didnt sign off on them so yes it is there fault

Degag

hynesie08 wrote: »

They will, no way can the gardai enforce this in every pub in the country.

Some pubs won't bother.

Some will, and will have 5-6 sittings a day, and can blame the government.

The government have their scape goat if anything goes tits up (evil publicans breaking the rules)

It's a tick the boxes exercise that actually benefits everyone.

Ah i know. My local didn't enforce it before and wont enforce it now.

It's more if you wanted to go away somewhere for a weekend not knowing if you will be turfed out after 2 hours or not.

Mick the irishman

hynesie08 wrote: »

What does that have to do with the government?

The plans due to be released could not be released as they were not signed off on by the Government

[Deleted User]

You love to know who came up with the 105 minute rule. Some load of bol1ox. Its only going to encourage pub crawls in the bigger towns and cities where the pubs will be booked up.Cant see pubs in smaller towns/villages using the 105 minute rule.

crooked cockney villain

speckle wrote: »

The count down begins....13 more days until pubs 'officially' open outdoors ...can wait to drop down to my local for a cuppa maybe even a whiskey in it to celebrate for once...Spare a thought for the musicians in your locals who have not been playing for over a year and when you listen to them next maybe drop an extra tip to them

It's better than nothing but I'm not that excited. Look at it this way- the North has had outdoor drinking for a month. Has there been a single day in the last month, weather wise, where it would have been remotely enjoyable?

I'll go for a few somewhere on Monday week just for the novelty of having a draught pint from a glass in a pub, at a trenemdous fuk you to Holohan, Harris and the rest, but tbh it's a poor substitute for the real thing, unless the summer does a 360 and we get 25 degree days by then. I'm struggling to even think of many pubs in the middle of Dublin that have a substantial beer garden (plus, legally, when does a canopy become indoors, what is outdoors and what isn't etc).

My thought- Monday July 13th at a minimum. The day after the Euros finals. That way they can deny us the pleasures of enjoying all of Euro 2020 in a pub with pints and some atmosphere.

In saying that, they'd also love to deny us an August BH. I'm fearing "ah sure what's another 3 weeks" here.

Bizarre fact- it is somewhat possible people in Dundalk will still be drinking in beer gardens in late July but will be able to go up the road to a ****ing nightclub on the same night.

The war on fun never ends.

TheDoctor

Not sure locally here how much of a difference outdoor drinking on June 7th will mean.

Have had take away pints up here out the back of the pub the last few weekends.

Which will be the exact same process after June 7th.

Fingers crossed for good weather.