bubblypop wrote: » There is nothing wrong with a multicultural country, not is there anything wrong with countries that are not. They are what they are. I wouldn't stop multiculturalism for any reason, not would I force it for any reason. It's just the nature of things.
bubblypop wrote: » And I don't know why anyone would think that Irish people are just white? Or why you think people think that? You have strange ideas
rgossip30 wrote: » Ireland signed up to freedom of movement of EU . What most have an issue with is non EU with no rights to be here .
Deleted User wrote: » Something to look forward to as our country becomes more multiracial and multicultural is the growing accusations of white privilege and racism.
bubblypop wrote: » Obviously. No-one has rights to live in another country unless they have permission.
Swindled wrote: » You do understand they don't have any right to that permission ?
bubblypop wrote: » Do you understand that that permission gives them rights?
Swindled wrote: » lol, yeah right, that's why 20,000 illegal immigrants were waved through last week, without so much as an ID or background check.
bubblypop wrote: » Yes, there are very few linked systems in this country.
Swindled wrote: » Oh dear, you'd be cancelled if you said that in the US or much of the western media. Naughty, Naughty, very naughty of you.
Swindled wrote: » They don't have any right to that permission, do you understand that ?
Salvation Tambourine wrote: » I don't think someone should be able to apply for a PPSN when on a holiday Visa or employers hire someone on a holiday Visa. I don't expect the Gardai to investigate all holiday Visas as I would imagine they are far less likely to over stay their Visa compared to those on longer work Visas (I don't have stats on this, wouldn't know where to look but seems logical). If applying for a PPSN there should be a requirement to produce your working Visa. PPSN should expire when working Visa expires. If working Visa is extended or you are permitted to work and/or stay in the country for permanently then the PPSN expiry is extended or granted indefinitely. Clear deflection tactic here though. Catching and rewarding people for breaking the law isn't as controlled as I would like it to be.
bubblypop wrote: » But you can be racist against white people too.
bubblypop wrote: » If they have permission to be here they have the right to be here. Sorry you find it hard to understand
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » again I thought this was bloody obvious. If you are against non eu immigrant coming here ( they are usually non white), the racist term has often been bandied about by idiots. I have observed this on countless forums and social media. .
bubblypop wrote: » Would you suggest that all gardai in the country investigate persons on holiday here, to make.sure they don't overstay their holiday visa?
bubblypop wrote: » No. You said all of them do not have the right to be here. But some do. Some do not.
Swindled wrote: » They don't, if they are here legally it's because were granted permission, it's not a "right"
bubblypop wrote: » Racist. Anti immigration Different things. And I don't know why anyone would think that Irish people are just white? Or why you think people think that? You have strange ideas
Swindled wrote: » All of them ? So why were 20,0000 illegals waved through last week ?
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » eh..the people who would bandy about the term racist if you were anti immigration. I thought this would be evident.
Salvation Tambourine wrote: » Cancelling or investigating a PPSN once a valid work document expires. Enforcing deportation after issuing a deportation notice to someone. There's two ways that it can be more controlled. Usually if people break laws and are caught they are punished. We have laws against murder and if we suspect someone has committed a murder we will investigate, charge and sentence if found guilty. We don't ask them to go to prison and take their word for it. We have rules and laws around immigration but if at least 17,000 people can disobey those rules and be rewarded then it's clear that they have lost control.
bubblypop wrote: » Yea, so non EU immigrants in this country have permission to be here.
Swindled wrote: » All of them, in exactly the same way I, rightly, have absolutely no right be in any country outside the EU unless I obtain that countries permission to be there, and when I am there, it's rightly on their terms and conditions, for the duration they desire. Their country, their rules.
bubblypop wrote: » Who thinks all Irish are white?!!
bubblypop wrote: » It is controlled. As best it can be. You are allowed entry to the state by various systems. We cannot control people's behaviour however, people can and do break rules and laws all the time.
bubblypop wrote: » Where is the uncontrolled immigration? Not in Ireland, because we have controlled immigration.
bubblypop wrote: » Which non EU have no right to be here?
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