Sold car yesterday, now buyer demand full refund

monkeybutter · 16-05-2021 9:39pm

Did they have a cork accent? Or another one, boss

You can see now why people try and sell cars from carparks rather than their homes even though it's on the VLC

grogi · 16-05-2021 9:39pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Tell them you paid the money off a loan you had so you no longer have it, and if they want to engage a solicitor (they wont) you look forward to hearing from them.

Why resort to lying? That might bite you too.

road_high · 16-05-2021 9:39pm

road_high wrote: »

Well I suppose if left in your own name it risks all kinds of hassle with parking and speeding fines in your name?

That happened my sister but lucky enough she had posted the change of ownership herself that day so they didn’t fine or penalty point her.

monkeybutter · 16-05-2021 9:40pm

road_high wrote: »

Well I suppose if left in your own name it risks all kinds of hassle with parking and speeding fines in your name?

Once they signed it, it's sold

You just tell them it's sold, see ya

road_high · 16-05-2021 9:43pm

monkeybutter wrote: »

Once they signed it, it's sold

You just tell them it's sold, see ya

I know but Shannon wont know that until they get the change of ownership form so you’ll still be the registered owner and the conduit for any traffic fines etc so best do it yourself to avoid this

Salim57774 · 16-05-2021 9:45pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Out of curiosity, did you send off the owners cert to Shannon?

Yes i did

monkeybutter · 16-05-2021 9:45pm

road_high wrote: »

I know but Shannon wont know that until they get the change of ownership form so you’ll still be the registered owner and the conduit for any traffic fines etc so best do it yourself to avoid this

It's best to both drop it in a post box together

As it's more of a pain if the seller can't be bothered sending it for the buyer to rectify

For the seller it could be a mild inconvenience, but nothing more

Salim57774 · 16-05-2021 9:46pm

Buddy Bubs wrote: »

What type of car was it? I see vw mentioned

Vw passat 1.4

Salim57774 · 16-05-2021 9:46pm

Lea Glamorous Malt wrote: »

Screenshot or back up all of these.

Will do

User1998 · 16-05-2021 9:47pm

Salim57774 wrote: »

Don't think she even have my number, she have asked all the questions and talked through the DoneDeal chat. Will see what her mechanic say tomorrow. Hope it's a minor issue she can fix, and that's it but if she demanded refund i will be blocking her as i can't handle thinking of this issue all day anymore.

She doesn’t even have your number? Happy days. Just block her on Donedeal it only takes two seconds and you’ll never hear from her again

User1998 · 16-05-2021 9:48pm

callaway92 wrote: »

No. Just don’t tell them anything. Just ignore them.

Exactly. Don’t even engage with them

monkeybutter · 16-05-2021 9:48pm

User1998 wrote: »

She doesn’t even have your number? Happy days. Just block her on Donedeal it only takes two seconds and you’ll never hear from her again

Does she have his address? Phone numbers not much recorse

Salim57774 · 16-05-2021 9:50pm

Meeoow wrote: »

Sounds a bit dodgy that you have the car less than 3 months and selling it.
She was mad in the head to buy it. I wouldn't have gone near it.

It could be a bit dodgy from your point of view, but my sister bought this as first car and couldn't get insured in her own with learner, i tried to insure it in my name and add her and when adding her the price goes up by nearly 3k so we decided to sell it after losing hope in insuring it.
Car was totally driving perfect and i advised her to bring her own mechanic, and she inspected it with the other 2 guys for nearly a full hour.

monkeybutter · 16-05-2021 9:51pm

Salim57774 wrote: »

It could be a bit dodgy from your point of view, but my sister bought this as first car and couldn't get insured in her own with learner, i tried to insure it in my name and add her and when adding her the price goes up by nearly 3k so we decided to sell it after losing hope in insuring it.
Car was totally driving perfect and i advised her to bring her own mechanic, and she inspected it with the other 2 guys for nearly a full hour.

Try one of those box insurers, save a fortune on first insurance

Nozebleed · 16-05-2021 9:52pm

Salim57774..

first of all....stop worrying. you done nothinig wrong. the onus in completely on the buyer when it comes to private sales. as soon as the purchaser has signed the documents and left with the vehicle its their problem. if you sent the reg cert off to shannon then your part in the sale is complete.

road_high · 16-05-2021 9:52pm

1.4 l petrol Passat is a nice car- some known issues with earlier versions of that engine but generally not bad

Salim57774 · 16-05-2021 9:53pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Tell them you paid the money off a loan you had so you no longer have it, and if they want to engage a solicitor (they wont) you look forward to hearing from them.

Thats a good excuse but i don't think i really need it. The members here are advising that legally i don't have to return it and to simply ignore it and that's what i will probably do.

Salim57774 · 16-05-2021 9:55pm

monkeybutter wrote: »

Did they have a cork accent? Or another one, boss

You can see now why people try and sell cars from carparks rather than their homes even though it's on the VLC

I think they did yes, they view it in the car park in the apartment complex where i live.

monkeybutter · 16-05-2021 9:55pm

In reality it's more about who you sold it to be, but if they were rational normal people you are grand

Salim57774 · 16-05-2021 9:57pm

User1998 wrote: »

She doesn’t even have your number? Happy days. Just block her on Donedeal it only takes two seconds and you’ll never hear from her again

All she have is DoneDeal chat and my family home address in the log book when they took picture of it.

monkeybutter · 16-05-2021 9:57pm

Salim57774 wrote: »

I think they did yes, they view it in the car park in the apartment complex where i live.

It's not like they'd drive up from cork with low oil pressure

Salim57774 · 16-05-2021 9:59pm

Nozebleed wrote: »

Salim57774..

first of all....stop worrying. you done nothinig wrong. the onus in completely on the buyer when it comes to private sales. as soon as the purchaser has signed the documents and left with the vehicle its their problem. if you sent the reg cert off to shannon then your part in the sale is complete.

Will do, the book was sent to Shannon, thanks for your reply.

Salim57774 · 16-05-2021 10:04pm

monkeybutter wrote: »

Try one of those box insurers, save a fortune on first insurance

Boxes have bad reviews, some people says that they will register you as speeding over the limit while driving below and they could increase the payment during the contract if they found you overspeeding thats why she was looking for normal insurance. instead of box. We got a good quote from AXA for Suzuki swift that she will probably buy tomorrow.
This time we will be calling insurance company in the day of purchase to confirm the insurance price.

Jaysci20 · 16-05-2021 10:13pm

Call the guards if they start to hassle you, but don't give them the refund.

road_high · 16-05-2021 10:25pm

Jaysci20 wrote: »

Call the guards if they start to hassle you, but don't give them the refund.

I very much doubt they will- just a pack of chancers trying their luck

Deeper Blue · 17-05-2021 12:58am

Once they drove off in the car it became their problem. Block their number and forget about them.

17-05-2021 7:53am

grogi wrote: »

Why resort to lying? That might bite you too.

Because they know then he no longer has the cash sitting around the house and there's no point in pestering him for it.

Also, how would that "bite you". He can do what he wants with his money. Do you think it'll go to court and a judge will demand to see where the person spent their money?

grogi · 17-05-2021 10:04am

Deleted User wrote: »

Because they know then he no longer has the cash sitting around the house and there's no point in pestering him for it.

How does hold onto cash? It's 2021 if you didn't notice...

Deleted User wrote: »

Also, how would that "bite you". He can do what he wants with his money. Do you think it'll go to court and a judge will demand to see where the person spent their money?

You can do whatever you want with money. But you should not lie about that. If you do (and it is easy to verify if you indeed paid back your mortgage), what does it tell about your character and your trustworthiness with the car?

User1998 · 17-05-2021 10:25am

Pointless argument. This will never reach court.

All OP needs to do is block the woman on Donedeal messenger and they will never hear from her again.

Salim57774 · 17-05-2021 2:10pm

She messaged me yesterday saying she booked it with VW garage and she got appointment today and they inspected the car and told her the car needs new oil switch, a whole new timing chain kit and it will cost 2800€ and she is demanding me to pay 2000 toward repair or return the car for full refund otherwise she will be getting a solictor and contacting the guards
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I was told by last owner timing was done and i wrote to her that before buying it in DoneDeal and i told her to bring her own mechanic to inspect it.

Do you think it’s just the time to block her on DoneDeal ?

Seth Brundle · 17-05-2021 2:12pm

it is long past time to block her!

VW will say that it needs a new chain as they will err on the side of caution as they can't verify when it was last done.
She had the opportunity to have the car checked over. Now she is looking for two grand just like that? GTF!!!

theteal · 17-05-2021 2:14pm

Salim57774 wrote: »

She messaged me yesterday saying she booked it with VW garage and she got appointment today and they inspected the car and told her the car needs new oil switch, a whole new timing chain kit and it will cost 2800€ and she is demanding me to pay 2000 toward repair or return the car for full refund otherwise she will be getting a solictor and contacting the guards
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I was told by last owner timing was done and i wrote to her that before buying it in DoneDeal and i told her to bring her own mechanic to inspect it.

Do you think it’s just the time to block her on DoneDeal ?

She's not in a position to be making demands. It should be requests and a hope (not expectation) of goodwill. I would be very tempted to remind her of such just before you block her. She fully inspected the car, she bought the car, she owns the car. Nothing to do with you. She's also being a bit of a <insert expletive here>. Block via Donedeal and move on with life.

Nozebleed · 17-05-2021 2:14pm

Salim...listen to me carefully.

this car is not your responsibility. under irish law you have done everything legally. the car belongs to someone else now and any problems or issues the have with the car is their responsibility and theirs alone. its doesnt matter what the previous owner said about the timing chain or service history.

you can ignore her texts and calls from this point on. no solicitor or the gardai will be interested in this situation.

elperello · 17-05-2021 2:22pm

You are not a trader and as such not expected to be knowledgeable about cars.

The woman knew this and had the car inspected before purchasing.

That is the risk of buying privately, she took the risk and lost out this time.

You are under no obligation to engage further.

antodeco · 17-05-2021 2:24pm

100% also a scam. They brought the 2 guys aswell as a deterrent so you'd be scared. Block and goodbye!

road_high · 17-05-2021 2:49pm

Who the fcuk books a €7k used VW into a VW garage for starters? Especially alleged major repairs like this, you'd go to a good private garage- defo a scam- she/they see you as a soft touch and are chancing their arms- not that it matters but where is the evidence of all this ??

road_high · 17-05-2021 2:59pm

Salim57774 wrote: »

She messaged me yesterday saying she booked it with VW garage and she got appointment today and they inspected the car and told her the car needs new oil switch, a whole new timing chain kit and it will cost 2800€ and she is demanding me to pay 2000 toward repair or return the car for full refund otherwise she will be getting a solictor and contacting the guards
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I was told by last owner timing was done and i wrote to her that before buying it in DoneDeal and i told her to bring her own mechanic to inspect it.

Do you think it’s just the time to block her on DoneDeal ?

Odd how she messaged on a Sunday too with booking, quote and details with such an instant quote- most franchise workshops I know operate a Mon-Friday with only parts/sales on a Sat morning. Does not add up to me.

bazz26 · 17-05-2021 3:19pm

Is this thread a wind up?

So let me get this straight, she only bought the car on Saturday, yet had it booked it in, inspected and diagnosed by a VW dealer, all done by early Monday? Lol, that's some service from this VW dealer. I can tell you that you would be waiting days if not a week or longer for a slot at most dealer service areas at the moment so it sounds like she is just trying to scare you into paying up. As for the story about the solicitor, the only solicitor who would take on such a stupid case is Lionel Hutz who mends shoes also. The Gardai won't entertain her either as they will say it's a civil matter and nothing to do with them.

My spidey senses still think this thread is a bit dubious to be fully believed.

monkeybutter · 17-05-2021 3:31pm

bazz26 wrote: »

Is this thread a wind up?

So let me get this straight, she only bought the car on Saturday, yet had it booked it in, inspected and diagnosed by a VW dealer, all done by early Monday? Lol, that's some service from this VW dealer. I can tell you that you would be waiting days if not a week or longer for a slot at most dealer service areas at the moment so it sounds like she is just trying to scare you into paying up. As for the story about the solicitor, the only solicitor who would take on such a stupid case is Lionel Hutz who mends shoes also. The Gardai won't entertain her either as they will say it's a civil matter and nothing to do with them.

My spidey senses still think this thread is a bit dubious to be fully believed.

it's entirely believable, that someone would try to scam someone else on a second hand car sale

but not enough effort into their lies to make it believable

i mean people have sold welded together scrapped cars

have removed engines and tried to return

the list goes on

Lmkrnr · 17-05-2021 4:04pm

Tough luck on the buyer if its legit giving new problems. If your genuine then its not your fault. Unless you said the timing chain was done at xmiles and it wasn't then they can't do anything.

I know a girl who bought a car on done deal recently, the timing belt wasn't done but the seller said it was. It even had a fresh date wrote on it, but when it went to the mechanic's he said it wasn't done. She stuck with it now tho.

17-05-2021 4:07pm

Salim57774 wrote: »

She messaged me yesterday saying she booked it with VW garage and she got appointment today and they inspected the car and told her the car needs new oil switch, a whole new timing chain kit and it will cost 2800€ and she is demanding me to pay 2000 toward repair or return the car for full refund otherwise she will be getting a solictor and contacting the guards
.
I was told by last owner timing was done and i wrote to her that before buying it in DoneDeal and i told her to bring her own mechanic to inspect it.

Do you think it’s just the time to block her on DoneDeal ?

It's past time you blocked her!

User1998 · 17-05-2021 5:15pm

If this isn’t a scam I can’t believe this person actually has the audacity to demand a refund, I wonder do they genuinely think their entitled to one

grogi · 17-05-2021 5:20pm

User1998 wrote: »

Pointless argument. This will never reach court..

In this case probably not. As a general rule though, it is indefinitely better to keep quiet than to confabulate lies.

JIdontknow · 17-05-2021 5:30pm

Salim57774 wrote: »

She messaged me yesterday saying she booked it with VW garage and she got appointment today and they inspected the car and told her the car needs new oil switch, a whole new timing chain kit and it will cost 2800€ and she is demanding me to pay 2000 toward repair or return the car for full refund otherwise she will be getting a solictor and contacting the guards
.
I was told by last owner timing was done and i wrote to her that before buying it in DoneDeal and i told her to bring her own mechanic to inspect it.

Do you think it’s just the time to block her on DoneDeal ?

Very much doubt she was able to make an appointment on a Sunday and that first thing Monday they had the car in to inspect it, that's not usually how it works...

If you really wanted you could phone the VW garage (If you have her name / address) so could probably find the vw garage in the vicinity and confirm if car with reg. number xyz has been in, but I probably wouldn't even bother. Stop worrying they are chancing their arm to try get back some money.

Muppet Man · 17-05-2021 5:41pm

Scam = Ignore. If not scam = still ignore.

Seth Brundle · 17-05-2021 5:54pm

JIdontknow wrote: »

If you really wanted you could phone the VW garage (If you have her name / address) so could probably find the vw garage in the vicinity and confirm if car with reg. number xyz has been in, but I probably wouldn't even bother. Stop worrying they are chancing their arm to try get back some money.

@Salim57774 - Do not follow up with VW or any mechanic as it is not your problem anymore - you do not own the car!
In addition, if it ever came to it, following up could be interpreted as you feeling guilty about something.

17-05-2021 7:22pm

Just out of curiosity, when you bought the car 3 months ago, did you get anything from the person who sold the car to you to show that the timing belt had been done, or did you just take their word for it?

Did you get any kind of mechanic's inspection done yourself at the time?

In fairness, a timing belt being done is not something I would just take someone's word on, I would want to see an invoice or receipt from a garage showing it had been done, as its a big job.

If the person you sold to is now being told the timing belt hasn't been done, when you told them it was, I would be pissed off

There is nothing the new buyer can do about it now, as obviously their fault that they in turn didn't seek proof of work done from you, too.

bazz26 · 17-05-2021 7:28pm

The car has a timing chain rather than a belt.

Deep Thought · 17-05-2021 7:33pm

CoBo55 · 17-05-2021 7:44pm

Lmkrnr wrote: »

Tough luck on the buyer if its legit giving new problems. If your genuine then its not your fault. Unless you said the timing chain was done at xmiles and it wasn't then they can't do anything.

I know a girl who bought a car on done deal recently, the timing belt wasn't done but the seller said it was. It even had a fresh date wrote on it, but when it went to the mechanic's he said it wasn't done. She stuck with it now tho.

Wha?? Just put a belt on it.

Sold car yesterday, now buyer demand full refund

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