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Boxing betting thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Morrison J wrote: »
    If you're a Joe Joyce backer next week there's 18/1 available on him to win in rounds 7-12 next week. Definitely a price that won't last given its clearly his main avenue to win bringing Dubois into deep waters late.

    I like Dubois to win personally but that 18/1 is a massive price surely and worth a look.

    You're on a roll.
    Unfortunately I have had a few bets I wanted to make in the last month but given that bookies are closed I haven't been able to make them.

    I don't like betting online.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Yeah that 18/1 was just silly really. Joyce's main avenue to win. Never made sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Over 7.5 rounds in Yarde v Arthur @ 4/5

    Think Arthur is getting a bit overlooked in this and belongs at or close enough to this level for it to be competitive. Think Yarde should win but would be surprised if he blasts Arthur out of there early. Think that total rounds line is a bit on the low side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    4/1 for Same Eggington to win on points tomorrow (Friday) looks a big price. Would expect him to outwork Theopane but don't think his power has been the same since he has moved to 154. Boxrec has it listed as only being a ten rounder so not a huge ask for Theopane to last the pace with him hopefully.


  • Registered Users Posts: 189 ✭✭Kaiser84


    Morrison J wrote: »
    4/1 for Same Eggington to win on points tomorrow (Friday) looks a big price. Would expect him to outwork Theopane but don't think his power has been the same since he has moved to 154. Boxrec has it listed as only being a ten rounder so not a huge ask for Theopane to last the pace with him hopefully.

    3/1 on Paddy Power. Still good value, good shout again. Theopane went the distance with Danny Garcia and went late with Broner in the past. Eggington seems to be very lacking in power at 154, as you said. Theopane is very dogged. Good chance of it going 10 rounds.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Kaiser84 wrote: »
    3/1 on Paddy Power. Still good value, good shout again. Theopane went the distance with Danny Garcia and went late with Broner in the past. Eggington seems to be very lacking in power at 154, as you said. Theopane is very dogged. Good chance of it going 10 rounds.
    Yeah no lack of doggedness from Theopane. Just a bit more outgunned than I expected and legs definitely not what they once were. Couldn't get out of the way and Eggington just way too big for him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 189 ✭✭Kaiser84


    Morrison J wrote: »
    Yeah no lack of doggedness from Theopane. Just a bit more outgunned than I expected and legs definitely not what they once were. Couldn't get out of the way and Eggington just way too big for him.

    Not much left there in the tank. Could be his last bout. He was surviving during every round, didn't really offer anything. If he'd have made it to round 7 or 8 I think Eggington would've settled for the points victory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Jake Paul is around 1.85 to win his bout with Ben Askren next week. Askren's a wrestler with terrible boxing so this seems like a really decent price on Paul despite his own inexperience.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6 Ohhhhwhataday


    Jake Paul is around 1.85 to win his bout with Ben Askren next week. Askren's a wrestler with terrible boxing so this seems like a really decent price on Paul despite his own inexperience.

    Is jake Paul defo gonna win in your opinion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Jake Paul is around 1.85 to win his bout with Ben Askren next week. Askren's a wrestler with terrible boxing so this seems like a really decent price on Paul despite his own inexperience.

    I like to avoid betting these fights as I genuinely don't know much about either but after seeing Askren on the scales I couldn't help myself and have backed Paul via KO @ evens. Askren looks like he hasn't trainer a lick for it.

    https://twitter.com/stanley_N7/status/1383194777525616641?s=19


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Askren can’t box for Sh1t

    At least Paul has some ability, albeit not much..

    Bigger, taller and much more a boxer than Askren.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Tbf askren has never looked in shape.

    Always displayed high levels of stamina and durability in competition too.


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Rocky Delightful Pekinese


    Askren on points - 7/2.

    Askren may not have the hands of Roy Jones Jr, but he has a granite chin.

    Jake Paul isn't a boxer, his fundamentals are atrocious. He relied on his power getting rid of a Youtuber and a retired basketballer. He'll need more than a left hook and overhand right to get rid of Askren.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Askren on points - 7/2.

    Askren may not have the hands of Roy Jones Jr, but he has a granite chin.

    Jake Paul isn't a boxer, his fundamentals are atrocious. He relied on his power getting rid of a Youtuber and a retired basketballer. He'll need more than a left hook and overhand right to get rid of Askren.

    He doesn’t have to get rid of him..

    Just has to beat him..


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Rocky Delightful Pekinese


    walshb wrote: »
    He doesn’t have to get rid of him..

    Just has to beat him..

    Unless the judges are on the take, there's no chance of a Paul decision.

    There are levels to fighting and Askren is infinite steps up from that Youtuber and millions of steps up from one of the shortest NBA players of all time.

    Askren has been against all sorts of killers in his career, including fellas that are infinitely better boxers than Jake Paul.

    We know Askren will go all night - elite stamina.

    Askren's distance control will win him the fight, in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Askren is like an elite wrestler though isn't he? Surely the danger of him getting a takedown is what keeps a good striker off him in MMA. Now that threat is taken away I don't see there being anything to stop a boxer just walking straight through him. Even if his chin is great he can easily be stopped through accumulation if he can't answer back.

    Just have to think those who are calling the shots behind the scenes know what they are doing here too. Hard to believe they've let a cash cow like Jake Paul lose to a relative unknown to the mainstream in Ben Askren. Too much more money to be made out of Paul to fall at this early a hurdle unless someone has completely ****ed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Unless the judges are on the take, there's no chance of a Paul decision.

    There are levels to fighting and Askren is infinite steps up from that Youtuber and millions of steps up from one of the shortest NBA players of all time.

    Askren has been against all sorts of killers in his career, including fellas that are infinitely better boxers than Jake Paul.

    We know Askren will go all night - elite stamina.

    Askren's distance control will win him the fight, in my opinion.

    Boxing stamina is very specialist and specific.

    So, unless he’s been boxing training, which we don’t know, then he may find it quite demanding...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭The DayDream


    Paul is now 4/6 and Askren shortening to 5/4. I think Paul is a good bet, casual fans especially love taking the plus money they won't take prices like 4/7 that's the reason i think money came in on Askren (and cause so many people hate Paul). Same type of people who would bet Conor Mcgregor vs Floyd: betting based on the better price and who they like (back then he wasn't a national embarrassment just yet)

    And how did that work out. MMA fighter lost when he tried to box. Yes Floyd was levels above Conor and Paul is a youtube jocket going against a guy who fought a lot and was pro for a while. But it didnt work for Conor crossing over to boxing and he really just did it for money and I think same applies here it's a payday for Askren and a stepping stone tomato can guy for Paul to beat but theyll make it entertaining for a while.

    Also Paul is younger and in serious shape. Didnt Askren have a hip replaced like last year just?


  • Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭ikeano29


    What a joke, that fight was fixed, no doubt about that.

    Askren walking off into dressing room with his missus and they both laughing and hugging like they won the lotto


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    ikeano29 wrote: »
    What a joke, that fight was fixed, no doubt about that.

    Askren walking off into dressing room with his missus and they both laughing and hugging like they won the lotto

    What's the story with that? 2 stiffs, and yer man fell over as soon as he got hit. The fella who won isn't a boxer, he's some social media narcissist. So why is it so publicised? Wouldn't it be like a completely random event, like a snooker match between Tyson Fury and Dillian Whyte. That was not a fight, it was a fiddle. They are making a mockery of boxing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    What's the story with that? 2 stiffs, and yer man fell over as soon as he got hit. The fella who won isn't a boxer, he's some social media narcissist. So why is it so publicised? Wouldn't it be like a completely random event, like a snooker match between Tyson Fury and Dillian Whyte. That was not a fight, it was a fiddle. They are making a mockery of boxing.

    The fella that won has had 2 prior boxing matches.
    Askren had zero.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,620 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Unless the judges are on the take, there's no chance of a Paul decision.

    There are levels to fighting and Askren is infinite steps up from that Youtuber and millions of steps up from one of the shortest NBA players of all time.

    Askren has been against all sorts of killers in his career, including fellas that are infinitely better boxers than Jake Paul.

    We know Askren will go all night - elite stamina.

    Askren's distance control will win him the fight, in my opinion.

    Well?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Mellor wrote: »
    The fella that won has had 2 prior boxing matches.
    Askren had zero.

    I had no money on it,,, but fair play to the lads who bet Paul when he was floating around 10/11. Jake is obviously not exactly Tyson Fury but he has spent the last 3 years working hard on the craft and seems to be taking it relatively seriously.

    Ben looking at the state of him and how little he seemed to care despite been knocked out in the first round clearly just wanted a pay day. That's fine , but glad to see the guy who took it more seriously win. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭Diddley Squat


    Denzel a good price to beat Cash tonight - 2/1 basically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Katie Taylor UD @ Evens looks decent tonight no?

    I think Jonas is fairly made for her. Need to have a high work rate to give Katie problems and Jonas is more of a pure boxer. Can see Katie beating her to the punch fairly consistently and winning wide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Morrison J wrote: »
    Katie Taylor UD @ Evens looks decent tonight no?

    I think Jonas is fairly made for her. Need to have a high work rate to give Katie problems and Jonas is more of a pure boxer. Can see Katie beating her to the punch fairly consistently and winning wide.
    Good shout


  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Know nothing of Alvarez, but I done a few speculative ones on William.

    B J Saunders: Win 4/1 , Majority Decision 22/1 , Split Decision 16/1 , and a haymaker one hoping Billy gets it done early with Billy Joe to win the fight in the first 60 seconds of Round 1 @ 100/1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭The DayDream


    Saunders has no hope any bet on him is a donation to the bookie fund


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,580 ✭✭✭bassy


    Know nothing of Alvarez, but I done a few speculative ones on William.

    B J Saunders: Win 4/1 , Majority Decision 22/1 , Split Decision 16/1 , and a haymaker one hoping Billy gets it done early with Billy Joe to win the fight in the first 60 seconds of Round 1 @ 100/1.

    LMFAO...................................................................................:rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bassy wrote: »
    LMFAO...................................................................................:rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Give us your prediction then Steve.... Oh so knowledgeable one that u is :rolleyes::rolleyes: :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭Diddley Squat


    Got :
    (i) not to go the distance , Ladbrokes 1/1 (earlier price)
    (ii) Canelo to win between rounds 7-12 inclusive , 11/4 Ladbrokes
    (iii) Canelo by stoppage - P.Power 6/4


    Canelo is too solid, likely to tear him apart from the middle of the fight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭Diddley Squat


    Know nothing of Alvarez, but ............


    thats a good disclaimer to begin with.
    An opening gambit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭Diddley Squat


    Got :
    (i) not to go the distance , Ladbrokes 1/1 (earlier price)
    (ii) Canelo to win between rounds 7-12 inclusive , 11/4 Ladbrokes
    (iii) Canelo by stoppage - P.Power 6/4


    Canelo is too solid, likely to tear him apart from the middle of the fight


    I'll take all of that - but I wanted the fight to continue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Joshua not to score a knockdown @ 6/5 looks good to me.

    Expecting a cagey fight with Usyk coming on the stronger late on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭markc91


    Any thoughts on tonight Mr. Morrison



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Nothing really stood out value wise tbh. Originally fancied Fury points and the over 7.5 total rounds but Wilder coming in heavy has me thinking he might try meet fire with fire and empty the tank early and has scared me off. Might live bet it depending on how Wilder starts.


    Kownacki probably wins by KO late but he's far too hittable and I couldn't trust him with my money at all.


    Ajagba v Sanchez a very good 50/50. No bet on it myself but gun to head Sanchez KO. Ajagba can bang but is a bit crude and hittable.



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Rocky Delightful Pekinese


    Fury & Ajagba win by KO/TKO - 9/1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    I don't even dislike Jake Paul as much as some do and think Tommy Fury is crap,,,,,but surely 13/8 or so is serious value for Fury to knock him out in a eight round fight?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    I had a look at some YouTube footage of Katie’s opponent for tomorrow and she doesn’t seem to have much power. I’ve backed KT for a rare stoppage at 9/4.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Zero knockdowns in Eubank v Williams @ 2/1 looks a generous price to me. Two tough men with proven durable chins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Even money for a Clarke first round KO. Like they've plucked a guy from the crowd to fight him.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭markc91


    Where did you find round betting J? Also any thoughts on the main event?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    I got it on B365 earlier but seems to have been taken down everywhere now.

    Too many unknowns with the main event to make a call with any conviction. Impossible to know what level of shot both are and it's rare to get two shot fighters together in such a meaningful fight where they've both clearly trained hard and care about winning as much as the money on offer. 

    I do think there'll more than likely be a few tentative rounds early with both fighters being afraid of making a mistake. Kinda would side with the over 8.5 rounds I think but that does seem to be very against the grain. Nothing would really shock me though and think I'm staying away myself.



  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Senor Frog


    Leigh wood ko/tko at 7/2 for me tonight.

    Not convinced by Conlon at all , half his "stoppages" are suspect , and I can see him attempting to trade later in the fight and getting clipped by wood who can can bang .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Are you that convinced by Leigh Wood though? A guy who lost wide to Jazza Dickens and was rocked by Reece Mould. Fair play if it comes in but I'd really struggle to be convinced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Bivol at 3/1 seems very juicy against Canelo doesn't it?


    And I am someone who rates Canelo highly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭markc91


    late notice but any thoughts on katies fight tonight?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Paddy Power have Lara to stop Spike O'Sullivan tomorrow night at:

    2/1 Rounds 1-6

    4/1 Rounds 1-4

    Both are worth a bet IMO, Lara will have him out of there quickly I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Highly unlikely he wins, but Joe Smith JR at 5/1 is tempting v v Beterbiev , yep Joe could get hurt but he seriously bang so a shock is possible?



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