banie01 wrote: » They aren't patenting Ivermectin though. They are patenting a soluble variation of it for use as a delivery method. If, and given the current state of the evidence it is a very conditional if. Ivermectin is shown to be a more efficacious treatment than those currently used, it may be that this company will gain sales based upon the novelty of the "newly patented" formulation. But I'm at a loss to see as to why a company would patent a new delivery vector, with those associated costs? But not progress with an EUA application based on the trials to date? It's almost as if, there's no quality data supporting a stance that the EUA is appropriate but that taking advantage of off label prescribing may present a sales opportunity.
biko wrote: » Looks like it's a good way forward for poor countries. We should use it here too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7rudChOLJY
biko wrote: » Slovakia are now going to use Ivermectin as a treatment so if it works for them then maybe EU will allow it. I wouldn't mind taking a drug that has been used successfully for over 40 years.
Piollaire wrote: » The EU won't allow it anytime soon. The European Medicines Agency trotted out in the last few days that it's use hasn't been proven and aren't sponsoring a trial themselves.
The Continental Op wrote: » I don't see what the fuss is? It may or may not be of any help countering Covid-19 but its a well proven drug with fewer side effects than many that doctors prescribe everyday.
Piollaire wrote: » The Cali Colombia trial is a big setback. It's getting a lot of attention having being published by a prestigious journal in the US. Looking closer at it hasn't proven anything either way. The placebo group didn't go on to develop serious covid as expected so there wasn't anything to compare to the Ivermectin group. The placebo group could have been on Ivermectin before or during the study, or have been accidentally dosed by the study team which they admitted happened for a cohort. Without blood tests to confirm that the placebo group were Ivermectin free then this study is worthless. Publishing this paper has done huge damage.
Piollaire wrote: » One of the two Nobel prize winning inventors of Ivermectin calling for it to be used as a treatment for Covid.http://jja-contents.wdc-jp.com/pdf/JJA74/74-1-open/74-1_44-95.pdf. Shame, shame, shame on Merck/MSD
Carefree88 wrote: » Poland are starting a trial with anti viral amantadyne soon, a doctor there is all over thre news who has treated 3,000 patients since this all began with no hospitalisations, he is blaming the government for all the unnecessary deaths as he believes early treatment with that antiviral would have saved many lives ...
More than 3,000 ampoules of anti-SARS-CoV-2 immunoglobulin have been produced, which after the completion of the required quality tests, including product stability tests, will be submitted to clinical trials in four centres
Johnboy1951 wrote: » TBH Merck did not behave in any unexpected way. It is the nature of companies/corporations/etc., unless set up with some charitable function, to consider their financial bottom line exclusively. So Merck did what it was expected to do ....... not spend deliberately on some venture with no profit in it, and secondly to defend their product sales from potential competition by issuing statements that call into question the efficacy of that potential competition. We have heard plenty such stories over the past few decades, from various sectors, so that this should not be a surprise to us. That document is a heavy read but written in a very damning manner for these kinds of works. I wish I knew the reason for preventing the 'off label' use of Ivermectin during this emergency. I can think of none, other than corruption!
To clarify this situation, a German study with 176 participants, published last week as a preprint, measured the age-dependent immune response to the Pfizer vaccine. Somewhat shockingly, the study found that one third of people over the age of 80 developed no neutralizing antibodies at all, and thus were potentially without seroprotection even after the second vaccination
Johnboy1951 wrote: » This is not directly related to Ivermectin, but it addresses treatment for Covid.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAHi3lX3oGM
myfreespirit wrote: » Hawthorn leaf, if you don't mind... Next, we'll be told that strong tea works wonders for a Covid infection. Must get on to the WHO immediately. They'll be delighted to know.
drunkmonkey wrote: » My go to for all cold and flu symptom is Echinaforce, stops them in their tracks, very little studies on it for Covid-19, but it does seem to inactivate it, my doctors wife who's a pharmacist swears by it. I wouldn't rule out things right in front us that could help people with symptoms. The observed virucidal activity of Echinaforce® was not restricted to common cold coronaviruses, as both SARS-CoV-1 and MERS-CoVs were inactivated at comparable concentrations. Finally, the causative agent of COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2 was also inactivated upon treatment with 50μg/ml Echinaforce®.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32907596/
