nav[aria-label="Primary Navigation"] { padding: 0; & ul { list-style: none; width: 100%; display: flex; flex-direction: row; justify-content: start; align-items: start; gap: 30px; padding: 0; & li { margin: 0; } & ul li { list-style: none; } } }

Child Item

Derek Chauvin murder trial (George Floyd)

Muahahaha

Officer Derek Chavin goes on trial today charged with the homicide of George Floyd, if found guilty he is facing up to 40 years in prison.

The prosecution is largely based on the 9 minute long video of Chauvin pressing his knee into Floyds neck. The defence is going to claim that Chavin did nothing outside of his police training and that Floyds death came about because of drugs in his system and an underlying heart condition. The official autopsy found that his death was a homicide.

Witnesses include a then 17 year old girl who filmed the video on her phone and a police dispatcher who watched events unfold live on CCTV and alerted her supervisor about his treatment.

Its unknown if Chavin himself will take the stand. The trial will also open up answers about the previous relationship between Floyd and Chavin- they both worked as security together for a bar in Minnesota. The trial itself is expected to last 4-5 weeks. The other three police officers involved in the incident will face trial themselves in August.

Find more posts tagged with

Quick Links

Comments

Yellow_Fern

I am posting a screenshot of the Minnesota Police Department training manual that shows a policeman's knee being placed on the neck of a suspect. It is called the prone maxial restraint technique.

BattleCorp

drkpower wrote: »

Because they don’t trust the police

I wonder if 12 months of no policing in their area would change their minds? Look how that Seattle experiment yoke turned out.

Overheal

PauloMN wrote: »

Was there any reference to race in the trial? I don't know, not being a smart arse by asking that. It appeared as a case of police brutality to me, so the verdict seems spot on. If there was a racial element involved, I'd be asking questions about how a police officer could be on active duty if he/she had racist leanings.

I didn’t watch the trial so I frankly don’t know what the prosecutions strategy was or if it hinges on, referenced or was dismissive of race.

drkpower

penny piper wrote: »

Would someone explain to me why the black people around george floyd plaza don't want police officers to patrol that neighbourhood only want their own security? that seems strange to me..

Because they don’t trust the police

Overheal

Yellow_Fern wrote: »

Look at the killing of Daniel Shaver, killed on his knees in his hotel room, begging not to be shot. The police were there as he was seen walking by his hotel room with a pellet gun. He was shot five times as he was seen to lowing one hand towards his waist, which it is believed he did as his briefs were falling off. He was drunk so struggled to comply with police instructions. But he was white so the media buried the case. Vastly worse case than the killing of George Floyd and he wasn't convicted a criminal like GF. But no protests. No outrage. No one cares.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42277309

Huh.

I’ll shortcut the pedantry here and just advice you that there are reams of reporting on the Daniel Shaver case from across the spectrum available just taps away by search engine. I don’t see how you get from there to a media coverup.

penny piper

Would someone explain to me why the black people around george floyd plaza don't want police officers to patrol that neighbourhood only want their own security? that seems strange to me..

drkpower

Overheal wrote: »

Surely nobody could actually pretend race is not an element in this case?

Well it wasn’t at all pleaded by the prosecution so that tells its own story.

It’s certainly possible that Chauvin had an inherent bias against black people but in my view (completely speculative just like everyone else’s) he is as likely to have had an inherent bias against ‘junkies’ and faced with someone with all of floyds characteristics who was Hispanic/white, he probably would have done the same thing.

PauloMN

Overheal wrote: »

Surely nobody could actually pretend race is not an element in this case?

Was there any reference to race in the trial? I don't know, not being a smart arse by asking that. It appeared as a case of police brutality to me, so the verdict seems spot on. If there was a racial element involved, I'd be asking questions about how a police officer could be on active duty if he/she had racist leanings.

[Deleted User]

Faugheen wrote: »

Nope.

Just suggesting that there are people on this forum who have problems with black people and are showcasing it right now by trying to defend this murdering scumbag and, in a lot of cases, victim blame.

As I have said multiple times. Dissent, deny, deflect and distract. Those same posters are happy to talk about anything to do with this case apart from the fact a white police officer murdered an unarmed black man.

It's actually funny that you're resorting to calling people racists over it..

penny piper

Smee_Again wrote: »

Didn’t see the trial.
Doesn’t understand the charges.

Wants to be taken seriously

Oh I think if you read some of my previous posts I definitely watched the trial...

Yellow_Fern

TomSweeney wrote: »

It's nuts, I think Chauvin would have done the same to a white guy if he acted that way (not excusing it, just pointing out that it's police brutality and not racism...)

Look at the killing of Daniel Shaver, killed on his knees in his hotel room, begging not to be shot. The police were there as he was seen walking by his hotel room with a pellet gun. He was shot five times as he was seen to lowing one hand towards his waist, which it is believed he did as his briefs were falling off. He was drunk so struggled to comply with police instructions. But he was white so the media buried the case. Vastly worse case than the killing of George Floyd and he wasn't convicted a criminal like GF. But no protests. No outrage. No one cares.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42277309

drkpower

Overheal wrote: »

Yes. Attorneys normally only can’t be excused from a case when it’s well underway and it can be shown that the attorney leaving would be disruptive to due process. This docket is wrapped up and the appeal is basically a subsequent docket.

In the US, appeal lawyers tend to be different to trial lawyers so he will probably have a different lawyer.

I

Smee_Again

penny piper wrote: »

no did you?

Didn’t see the trial.
Doesn’t understand the charges.

Wants to be taken seriously

[Deleted User]

Overheal wrote: »

Surely nobody could actually pretend race is not an element in this case?

I'm more shocked that you actually believe it is.

BattleCorp

When's the appeal? Do they have to wait until after sentencing?

penny piper

Smee_Again wrote: »

Irrelevant.

PP is ignorant to the differences between the charges, that’s easily fixed by reading the judge’s instructions to the jury.

They haven’t done that and are claiming the verdicts are wrong while also confessing to not understanding the charges. Why should anyone pay any more attention to that poster?

A complete waste of time.

Well, I'm so sorry for been so stupid perhaps you should ignore me in future...like I'll ignore you ...have a nice day

penny piper

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Did you actually see the trial?

no did you?

TomSweeney

Overheal wrote: »

Surely nobody could actually pretend race is not an element in this case?

Why is it an element though ? do you think the cops would have treated him differently if he were white ?

But everything else was the same ...

penny piper

Tony EH wrote: »

NOTHING you have posted in this thread has made any real sense.

You are only continually bleating the same message over and over again. You want Chauvin to get away with killing Floyd.

We get it.

Other than that, you have absolutely nothing else.

Do you really think I care what you think?

Overheal

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because the colour of the people has nothing to do with this case.

Why would you bring race into it?

Surely nobody could actually pretend race is not an element in this case?

PhlegmyMoses

penny piper wrote: »

Someone might answer me this.....Has Chauvan been found guilty of intentional manslaughter along with non intentional manslaughter?

how does that work?

Did you actually see the trial?

Smee_Again

Yellow_Fern wrote: »

To be fair his charges have been controversial. A Minnesota judge ruled last October that they couldnt charge him with second degree murder but the prosecution overturned it in the state’s Court of Appeals https://apnews.com/article/derek-chauvin-trial-murder-charge-explained-5e7c935f560219caee61fcc0bef0a23d

Irrelevant.

PP is ignorant to the differences between the charges, that’s easily fixed by reading the judge’s instructions to the jury.

They haven’t done that and are claiming the verdicts are wrong while also confessing to not understanding the charges. Why should anyone pay any more attention to that poster?

A complete waste of time.

[Deleted User]

penny piper wrote: »

Does he get the same lawyer Nelson for the appeal ?... I know there's a new jury/judge

There wouldn't be a jury for an appeal, only for a retrial.

[Deleted User]

Faugheen wrote: »

Those same posters are happy to talk about anything to do with this case apart from the fact a white police officer murdered an unarmed black man.

Because the colour of the people has nothing to do with this case.

Why would you bring race into it?

[Deleted User]

Overheal wrote: »

Yes. Attorneys normally only can’t be excused from a case when it’s well underway and it can be shown that the attorney leaving would be disruptive to due process. This docket is wrapped up and the appeal is basically a subsequent docket.

I'm pretty sure for an appeal he can instruct whoever he wants. The case is decided, an appeal will look at grounds as to why the verdict/case was unfair, if there's new evidence, reasons why the conviction should not stand. It is not a continuation of the case, its a review.

Smee_Again

penny piper wrote: »

Maybe I don't agree with mr.chauvan getting jailed? idk make more sense?

Not really.

It’s clear you don’t understand the charges and the differences between but you’re adamant that Chauvin is innocent.

So I’ll repeat my question how can anyone take you seriously when you don’t really know what’s going on.

Faugheen

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Are you suggesting this incident was racially motivated?

And of course racism exists, but unfortunately when people describe any bad thing that happens to a person of colour as racism, it dilutes the severity of the word and it starts to lose all meaning.

And imagine white people not wanting to be discriminated against because of their skin colour.....

Nope.

Just suggesting that there are people on this forum who have problems with black people and are showcasing it right now by trying to defend this murdering scumbag and, in a lot of cases, victim blame.

As I have said multiple times. Dissent, deny, deflect and distract. Those same posters are happy to talk about anything to do with this case apart from the fact a white police officer murdered an unarmed black man.

Oranage2

penny piper wrote: »

Maybe I don't agree with mr.chauvan getting jailed? idk make more sense?

So you've no idea about anything, just a gut feeling that he doesn't deserve jail.

Thank God you weren't a member of the jury

Tony EH

penny piper wrote: »

Maybe I don't agree with mr.chauvan getting jailed? idk make more sense?

NOTHING you have posted in this thread has made any real sense.

You are only continually bleating the same message over and over again. You want Chauvin to get away with killing Floyd.

We get it.

Other than that, you have absolutely nothing else.

[Deleted User]

Oranage2 wrote: »

Systematic racism

How does systemic racism apply to this case?