GreeBo wrote: » No but interpretation can be. For example, let's say that crime is 95% committed by people living in poverty. Now if 75% of crimes are committed by black people and 70% of black people are living in poverty, then saying they commit crime because they are black is racist because clearly they commit crime because they are living in poverty
Fandymo wrote: » Are crime stats racist? Can facts be racist?
Tell me how wrote: » What I am suggesting is, that had he been white, he likely wouldn't have been pulled over in the first place. And when you say I don't have evidence for what I am saying, what do you mean? Is the video of the cop telling the US solider that he should be scared for his life when getting out of his car not evidence of what I am saying?
Tell me how wrote: » So, has anyone any solutions to help overcome the issues America experiences frequently or is everyone just here to say the same thing as was said below.
WrenBoy wrote: » To be fair TMH I think most posters are reacting to the by-passing of the discussion straight to the conclusion that white peoples racism is the only cause for this incident and other related issues.
Fandymo wrote: » Riiiiiiiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhhtttttttttttt.
Fandymo wrote: » Originally Posted by Fandymo View Post More white people than black people get shot yearly by the police. Are they racist against white people?
Tell me how wrote: » So, has anyone any solutions to help overcome the issues America experiences frequently or is everyone just here to say the same thing as was said below. That's what I can't figure out, at least some of us see an issue or current affairs topic, and would like to see conversation on how to overcome it and more see the same issue or topic and seem adamant that nothing can be done/should be done. Conversations on equal rights, fair treatment, sustainability, societal safety etc the same voices appear time and again saying it's just a woke agenda (but then claiming that isn't what they mean by woke) or that nothing can/should be done. That's why I refer to such people as members of status-quo, they just want things to say as they are, so what if others are suffering, it ain't them.
10000maniacs wrote: » Who compiles those crime stats, or does the arrests that add to those crime stats? Mostly Caucasian bean counters, cops, lawyers and judges.
Student_111 wrote: » Good riddance. Scumbag.
10000maniacs wrote: » If you are saying black people are more violent and criminal minded than white people generally, that is somewhat racist.
JJayoo wrote: » Even tho I have him on ignore I have to read his attention seeking crap because everyone keeps quoting and replying to him
Tell me how wrote: » Cool response kid. You'll get your thanks.
Danzy wrote: » Lol. Is that what you think the woke are. Your post is what I am on about.
WrenBoy wrote: » O brother, if we're talking about parroting buzzwords and fad nonsense, yes you certainly have done it.
Fandymo wrote: » 13% of the population. But what % of violent crimes are this poor, downtrodden 13% responsible for?? The more violent crime you’re involved in, the more police interactions, the more chance of being shot.
nullzero wrote: » So you have no evidence to support what you're saying but the police are in your opinion definitely overtly racist so his being African American contributed to his being accidentally shot? Are you suggesting that had he been white and behaved in exactly the same way the same accident wouldn't have occurred? Or was it just a accident that the officer in question drew her gun instead of her taser and the whole incident could have been avoided if she had been more careful and Duante Wright hadn't attempted to flee the scene?
Tell me how wrote: » And you can ask a 3rd time and a 4th time. It is impossible to say definitively that race was the categorical motivating factor in Duante being shot. Looking for such evidence is a close to impossibly high bar because it calls for clear verbal or other irrefutable evidence of what is something which is mostly a mindset. I'm not saying now, nor have I that it most definitely was race that was the motivating factor when the trigger was pulled but I am saying that time and again we say evidence of prejudice in how cops in America decide to engage with people and the frequency and manner in which black people are targeted and that that should not be acceptable by a publicly funded organization with the motto 'to protect and to serve'. But, no, so many on here want to ignore that reality and not consider the presence of an ingrained mindset which treats some people differently than others as long as they can point to there not having been a specific and definitive racial expression. But, here we are, going around in circles once again, by all means, suggest a government or police policy that would go some way towards resolving the violent issues America sees frequently or we can assume that you do not have any issue with them happening.
Tell me how wrote: » There, I did it for you.
Tell me how wrote: » And what about the non-woke? Literally being proud of not having empathy, understanding or any sort of a desire to see fair treatment for people who do not always have it. Seems a bizarre thing to be proud of, 'Oh, look at me, I don't give a fcuk about others, and I want you to know it'.
nullzero wrote: » What you are saying has no basis in reality. This incident occurred when a mistake was made by the police officer in question. They did not set out to kill Duante Wright, and they certainly didn't do so because of his skin colour. The reaction of the officer from the body cam footage shows clearly that she did not intend to use her firearm. This is a tragic event, but anyone stating that he should have complied with the police (which he should have) is not displaying a lack of empathy never mind being proud of such an alleged deficiency and you are well aware of how inflammatory and inaccurate that statement is in yet you choose to make it. I asked you twice to provide evidence that Duante Wright was shot because of his skin colour and I'm still waiting for an answer whilst you fling accusations as preposterous as the above around with contempt.
WrenBoy wrote: » This is the 21st Century no one is arguing for racism or sexism or prejudiced policies except the small lunatic fringes on both ends of the spectrum. In the western world equality has by and large been achieved in our laws. People just want to get on. But now the call is more often for equity and atonement for ancestral crimes. Well I cant speak for the "status Quo fan club" as you call it, who is that btw? People disagree about different aspects of different topics/societal issues and is too broad to shrink down to "FOR OR AGAINST THE STATUS QUO !?" People would agree that changes needed to be made and other things need to continue to improve but because they don't line up with the prevailing popular call of the day to "defund the police" or "dismantle whiteness" they are just lumped in with the "Status Quo fan club"I'll remember to do a privilege check later.
Tell me how wrote: » BS. They argue that those who have been prejudiced because of their race, ethnicity, gender do not have to experience that.
Tell me how wrote: » And the status-quo fan club members who are largely white and male (but not exclusively in either sense) who do not experience this attack any progressive theme or individual while claiming that they have never experienced any privilege solely because of who they are. Newsflash, if you have not been motivated to call for action to help yourself, or those like you who are being treated unfairly just because of who you are, that's a privilege.
WrenBoy wrote: » The 'woke' crowd. (hate the term) do not argue for fair treatment, they argue for special treatment depending on race, ethnicity, gender etc.
