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EU Digital/paper! Certs, the Megathread - threadbans in OP

biko

This is to be implemented in 2 years time.

https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/health/files/vaccination/docs/2019-2022_roadmap_en.pdf

Commission proposal for a common vaccination card/passport for EU citizens

https://www.vaccinestoday.eu/stories/eu-considers-vaccination-passport-for-kids/

The ultimate goal of a vaccination passport would be to ensure that children who move between countries with different immunisation schedules do not miss out on crucial vaccinations. A similar scheme is already in place for pets and has helped boost vaccination rates, according to the European Commission.

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is_that_so

Spain saying they expect vaccine passports in the EU will be ready by June.

Spain expects digital vaccine certificates to ease travel within the European Union will be ready in June at the latest, foreign minister Arancha Gonzalez Laya has said.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0331/1207123-coronavirus-global/

Gael23

I’m sure NOHET have other plans. It won’t work if governments or unelected officials can impose additional restrictions

Gael23

Any more news on this

drunkmonkey

From the Times this morning..

Leo Varadkar has confirmed the Government is developing a “digital green certificate vaccine pass” for people to prove they have been fully inoculated.

He said the Government would introduce “additional measures for the fully vaccinated, more freedoms for those who have been vaccinated”.
Vaccinated will be offered additional freedoms, says Varadkar (via @IrishTimes) https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/vaccinated-will-be-offered-additional-freedoms-says-varadkar-1.4529990

I'm curious to know how far they'll take this or can they even legally do it.

pjohnson

Random word salad title aside the actual idea sounds good.

Sanjuro

What do you really expect from this if you title your thread like that?

FlubberJones

So that means the over 70s will be able to travel quicker and enjoy a "more active life" than the younger people awaiting the vaccine... brilliant.

Jim_Hodge

All for a proof that you've been vaccinated. As for more freedoms for the vaccinated, Great idea.

Is that what you want OP?

#StupidThread.

faceman

Great news, finally recognition for the vaccines doing their job.

gctest50

FlubberJones wrote: »

So that means the over 70s will be able to travel quicker and enjoy a "more active life" than the younger people awaiting the vaccine... brilliant.

The government has to reward the guinea pigs so they'll be twice as willing next pandemic

PringleDemon

Sheep :mad:

is_that_so

pjohnson wrote: »

Word salad title aside the actual idea sounds good.

Unless you're someone who can't avail of it but if people have embraced the idea of mandatory quarantine so this one will go down very well. Very hard to see how this will work, apart from maybe travel and just as easy to see it generate a lot of tension especially if it used as a means of exclusion.

bucketybuck

If we are all going to be vaccinated within a few months, then why do we need all these "vaccine passport" type measures?

Why are we implementing costly and long term measures for something that should be managed in a few months time?

Padre_Pio

It won't happen.

Sounds like a decent idea, but it's a government project.
It'll be a year before it's ready and at that stage no one will care.

Zaph

FlubberJones wrote: »

So that means the over 70s will be able to travel quicker and enjoy a "more active life" than the younger people awaiting the vaccine... brilliant.

What have you got against over 70s? Lockdown hasn't exactly been a bundle of joy for them either you know? Why shouldn't they be able to take advantage of having been vaccinated while the programme works its way through the rest of the population?

is_that_so

bucketybuck wrote: »

If we are all going to be vaccinated within a few months, then why do we need all these "vaccine passport" type measures?

Why are we implementing costly and long term measures for something that should be managed in a few months time?

The passports are effectively to get tourism back up and running in Europe. Some are looking to Israel and how they seem to be using them, more as a means of helping other industries than for the good of science.

10pennymixup

I'm up for the "irish Apartheid" if it means Gemma Doherty and her ilk are shipped off to Robin Island for life hard labour.

wadacrack

bucketybuck wrote: »

If we are all going to be vaccinated within a few months, then why do we need all these "vaccine passport" type measures?

Why are we implementing costly and long term measures for something that should be managed in a few months time?

Not everyone wants to be vaccinated. The idea of needing a vaccine passport to enter certain settings is a worrying one.

It should be a choice at this stage. I'm not against vaccines and will be happy to take this one when available but the option should be their.

This could set a precedent in the future that would lead to Governments gaining more control, and power from people.

The problem is now that stating such a thing almost makes you morally inferior in some people's eyes.

Its important to understand both sides of the argument.

sydthebeat

Excellent idea.

Works great in other countries that have already brought it in.

There is literally no downside.
Economy can open quicker, elderly and most vulnerable can get back out socially quicker....
Normality returns quicker

sydthebeat

wadacrack wrote: »

Not everyone wants to be vaccinated. The idea of needing a vaccine passport to enter certain settings is a worrying one.

It should be a choice at this stage. I'm not against vaccines and will be happy to take this one when available but the option should be their.

This could set a precedent in the future that would lead to Governments gaining more control, and power from people.

The problem is now that stating such a thing almost makes you morally inferior in some people's eyes.

Its important to understand both sides of the argument.

Of course it's a choice

But with every choice theres an upside and downside.

If you choose not to do something for the benefit of the wider society, and to put more vulnerable people at risk, there needs to be a downside to that choice.

prunudo

sydthebeat wrote: »

Excellent idea.

Works great in other countries that have already brought it in.

There is literally no downside.
Economy can open quicker, elderly and most vulnerable can get back out socially quicker....
Normality returns quicker

So you're happy with the idea of pregnant women never being allowed to holiday again?

is_that_so

sydthebeat wrote: »

Excellent idea.

Works great in other countries that have already brought it in.

There is literally no downside.
Economy can open quicker, elderly and most vulnerable can get back out socially quicker....
Normality returns quicker

Up to 30% may not have such passports and just what are we going to do about the kids? Could be lots of unintended consequences to changing a voluntary vaccination programme into a mandatory one. That's one extra thing to bring with you when you do the weekly shop.

FileNotFound

Seems like a nice story to get a few people riled up, even if it were real, the odds of an effective system in place before majority vaccination is hard to see.

Just a thought but would this allow a restaurant for example to have an area with less social distancing (for use with vaccinated people) while having greater space in the remaining parts?

Either way, won't be ready before its redundant.

wadacrack

sydthebeat wrote: »

Of course it's a choice

But with every choice theres an upside and downside.

If you choose not to do something for the benefit of the wider society, and to put more vulnerable people at risk, there needs to be a downside to that choice.

The more vulnerable will be vaccinated and all evidence suggests that they will be protected from serious illness.

sydthebeat

prunudo wrote: »

So you're happy with the idea of pregnant women never being allowed to holiday again?

Never??

FileNotFound

prunudo wrote: »

So you're happy with the idea of pregnant women never being allowed to holiday again?

Sure they won't be pregnant for ever haha

Happydays2020

FlubberJones wrote: »

So that means the over 70s will be able to travel quicker and enjoy a "more active life" than the younger people awaiting the vaccine... brilliant.

Agree. It is a brilliant idea.

faceman

prunudo wrote: »

So you're happy with the idea of pregnant women never being allowed to holiday again?

Thats not going to happen. Sheesh

People are so dumb

sydthebeat

wadacrack wrote: »

The more vulnerable will be vaccinated and all evidence suggests that they will be protected from serious illness.

Not everyone can be vaccinated

Snotty

Feel like you missed the opportunity to use holocaust in that title too