Flyin Irishman wrote: » Yeah, he basically said it in that article above. He did it deliberately in the hopes that people would like it and complain, making the council look like the bad guys for enforcing the planning laws. It's similar to the Homesavers fiasco. If he had applied for permission and it had been refused, I would have totally disagreed with the decision and thought it was hindering progress, but the fact he flouted the rules I have no sympathy
Wanderer78 wrote: » Oh don't worry, he's no fool, he knew exactly what he was at
Muttley79 wrote: As far as I know they built out the original beer garden that was there and added it out by extra decking.however they then built a further terrace further down closer to the beach.it has added massively to tramore but planning is there for a reason.for the owner that made his money in construction yeah think he would have known better.would be equivalent to somebody building the taj mahal and arguing that it's grand sure.he probably get a slap on the wrist and a fine for it
Deiseen wrote: Is that the terrace they have at the restaurant level at the moment or another one?
Wanderer78 wrote: » interesting!https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/tramore-bar-owner-says-planning-refusal-for-outdoor-terrace-a-missed-opportunity-1.4523958
SeanieW1977 wrote: » sure has.
Oscar Madison wrote: » You'll have to start travelling W'
Wanderer78 wrote: » both of course, both can and do produce economic activities, by the looks of it, most free pass holders are pensioners, so id imagine many do spend on their trips, many other none pensioners probably also do to
Oscar Madison wrote: » Commercial or drug related?
Wanderer78 wrote: » wonder how much economic activity it produces
hardybuck wrote: » We have the same problem in Ireland caused by allowing too much one-off housing, which adds to the cost of bringing services to those people (water, roads, electricity, broadband, waste collection, schools, post offices etc.). In my opinion cities like Waterford would be better off if they had density more similar to what you'd see in places like Germany or Holland.
Wanderer78 wrote: » i hear you, but id still argue, that it would probably increase some social problems, theres plenty of evidence to show this globally, critical infrastructure networks such as water works, electricity, broadband etc etc, tend to become strained, as its costly and complex to also expand these networks, in order to truly facilitate this population growth
hardybuck wrote: » I think there is considerable scope to increase the density of the city centre, and it may actually improve some social issues caused by isolation and limited access to services. Anyone who has walked around the city after dark will know how empty it is, even pre-Covid, and I'm sure many people would feel quite vulnerable and unsafe. There's talk of the M20 project (which could have a Waterford element) costing between €2-3bn to complete (and the rest). Imagine what you could do in Waterford if you even got 20% of that to improve facilities in the city.
Wanderer78 wrote: » its a difficult balance, having too many people living together causes a rise in social problems which is costly in many ways, not just financially, yet too far away, also costs a fortune to run
hardybuck wrote: » It may be worth reflecting on whether it'd be better to spend that money on projects linking Waterford to other cities and towns in the region, or spending more of it on projects directly in Waterford and other cities and towns in the region. In my opinion we might be better off investing in projects which will increase the density of places like Waterford, so that more people are living closer to the services they need. If there is greater density in the city there will be greater scope for improving infrastructure for walking/cycling/taking public transport and reducing reliance on car ownership. At the moment I think we're stuck in a repetitive cycle of allowing houses to be built too far away from services, and then trying to put solutions in place to get people from unsuitable locations to the places where services are located.
Oscar Madison wrote: » https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20469806.html Ok, maybe a slight over exaggeration on my behalf but still way too many!
Wanderer78 wrote: » I seriously doubt 2.5m people have free travel
Muttley79 wrote: » https://waterford-news.ie/2021/03/22/waterford-wexford-line-confirmed-for-all-island-strategic-rail-review/ Hopefully this happens as it's a great gateway for the whole south east region
Oscar Madison wrote: With half the country on free travel would you think the government would plough money in to this?
Mad Peggy wrote: » nothing that is planned in this town ever happens and thats a fact
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