crosstownk wrote: » Why paint the GTs in the old (blue) livery but SGs in the new yellow/green? So far I've only seen SGs in the new livery. What about EV, VG, VT and other older buses? I'm sure some will be sold as the newer fleet arrives but of those that will be retained, what's the plan for repaint - if any?
GT89 wrote: » Just an update I have heard elsewhere that the NTA intend the new livery will be used on all PSO services in the state. So perhaps the GTs are actually supposed to be getting the new livery after all and the decision to repaint them in the old livery was either because of a misunderstanding by DB or a deliberate attempt by DB in order to hold onto their brand identity for as long as possible. I'd imagine the argument behind keeping the EV, VG and VT in the old livery is that they won't have long enough left in service for them warrant a repaint.
GM228 wrote: » Yes indeed all PSO (except GAI I believe) services will get it eventually, the new BE LFs are also being delivered in this livery. However I understand that only buses with Euro6 engines will get the livery which is why the GTs continue to be repainted in the DB livery because only the "greenest" of the fleets will get the green livery.
.anon. wrote: » I've heard that GAI will eventually get the new livery whenever their buses are due for repainting (mid-2022 at the earliest, but earlier if the NTA seek the funding to do it more quickly than that). Also, I've heard that the GTs may get it too. They seem to be getting through the SGs very quickly. I see several in the new livery every day now. I even saw one in the background on an RTE News report just now.
BonnieSituation wrote: » Hugh Linehan isn't happy it seems.https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/art-and-design/from-faecal-brown-to-loop-the-loop-the-changing-colours-of-dublin-bus-1.4583230?mode=amp What a weird filler article.
Burt Renaults wrote: » Littered with errors, but he's right about one thing - there's absolutely no need whatsoever for all the yellow. Or indeed any yellow at all. It's a great big bus, with an LED display on the front. Two-tone green would've been better.
bg07 wrote: » Also the accompanying picture shows the wrong livery.
bk wrote: » Why do I get the feeling that they specifically used the wrong picture, because the new livery actually looks very nice and most people seem to really like it, which would thus make the whole article look pretty stupid! I do think there are nuggets in the article for discussion, but he seems to largely miss with the overall focus of the article. For instance I agree that the bright yellow is unnecessary and he is correct that there is compelling psychological research that using too much high viz, people start to become blind to it and it loses it's usefulness. This is something we have learned in the field of software design, that too many unnecessary warnings and pop-ups just teaches people to ignore them and click ok without thinking about it, which can be dangerous when something actually important comes up. Buses don't need to be bright yellow, nor do people and kids out walking and cycling on city (note city, rural roads different story) footpaths need bright yellow. It is unnecessary and trains people to ignore it, which could be dangerous for the likes of Gardai, etc. who might need to stand in the middle of a road, stopping traffic, etc. BTW similarly, these is why blue flashing emergency lights are legally limited to only emergency services. So that people don't get too use to it on the back of every builders truck, etc. Having said all this. I do think that the new livery integrates it quiet well and looks very well overall.
GT89 wrote: » The other thing the bright colours need to contrast with something dark. The blue and yellow DB livery and old TFI livery does this quite well as by using a bright colour with a dark colour makes the bright colour stand out more. Like the way many warning signs use black and yellow/amber as the black makes the bright colour stand out more rather than just the bright colour on it's own.
bk wrote: » While you are correct, in this case I think this is the point of the new livery. It allows them to follow the letter of the demands from the disability groups, have yellow upfront, while creating a livery that overall is pretty nice and the yellow is relatively well integrated and doesn't stand out too much like it does on the Blue/Yellow GoAhead livery.
The new TFI livery came out on top, with 65% of respondents saying they preferred the yellow and green design. The Dublin Bus livery received 26.5% of votes and the first attempt of the TFI livery was least favourable coming in at 8.5%.
gushes the TFI website, which is decked out in the same wince-making shades
