Thelonious Monk wrote: » Ah I know, I guess I'm just glad to see articles explaining meat isn't the be all and end all in order to be healthy, and in an Irish publication too
jh79 wrote: » As a meat eater, I take comfort in the fact that even taking this study into account once my BMI is in range I can eat as much red meat as I like. In theory, that should translate to 70g a day. I know studies on nutrition are popular on this forum but the reality is these studies should be viewed with caution. Too many variables to make any real meaningful conclusions. I think it was the head of the Irish Cancer Society that said that the only real indicators of health outcomes are BMI and wealth. I genuinely don't think anybody, whether vegan or meat eater, should worry about their diet beyond BMI. The human body is quite resilient. Extra nutrition is just wasted.
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They eat mainly beans, with vegetables, fruit and whole grains
New Home wrote: » Ah, ok. It was fish on other documentaries I'd seen (and stuff I'd read, e.g. this one) a while back - they were saying the fish oils might have had something to do with it. Edit: Sorry, maybe it's staring at me in the face but I can't see it, where do they mention pulses in that article?
Thelonious Monk wrote: » https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/eating-meat-linked-to-wide-range-of-illnesses-study-1.4499364 Thank god for lentils
Keren Papier is a Nutritional Epidemiologist whose research examines the burden and major modifiable risk factors (diet, lifestyle) of malnutrition and non-communicable diseases in different populations. She has a particular interest in cardio-metabolic diseases and in assessing risk factors that affect vulnerable population groups. Her international research settings include: Thailand, Philippines, Australia, and the UK
Is a vegan diet healthier? Five reasons why we can't tell for sure
While some research has shown that vegan diets have positive health effects, such as lower risks of heart disease, diabetes and diverticular disease, our recent study also showed that vegans may have a higher risk of fractures, and vegans and vegetarians combined may have a higher risk of haemorrhagic stroke.
At the Cancer Epidemiology Unit (CEU), Keren's work forms part of the Wellcome Trust funded LEAP Project (Livestock, Environment and People). For this work, she examines the relationship between animal sourced foods (particularly meat and dairy) and health outcomes
igCorcaigh wrote: » Beans are mentioned in the list of bullet points. Interesting too how they mention eating to 80% full.
New Home wrote: » You could maintain a perfect BMI eating only sugar provided it's in the right amount, but you'd get no other nutrients and your health would most definitely be affected.
Tar.Aldarion wrote: » There are a lot of factors beyond BMI and wealth, the longest living peoples have often been really poor. Muscular people have a high BMI.https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bmi-is-a-terrible-measure-of-health/ These are a good place to start, commonalities between each of the places where people lived longest:
jh79 wrote: » I did say that BMI was the best not that it was perfect. In large scale public health studies BMI is fine. For individuals at the extremes such as low BMI but big belly then not so much but public health research is population based. All these studies have tons of variables making causation impossible. The correlation between BMI and health outcomes is stronger than a specific diet vs health outcomes.
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Thelonious Monk wrote: » https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/09/chinas-appetite-for-meat-fades-as-vegan-revolution-takes-hold Fake meat market growing in China, good to hear. I see it's also government policy for them to reduce meat consumption by 50% in future -https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/20/chinas-meat-consumption-climate-change Good to know such a large part of the global population are at least doing something, I think there would be murder if any politician mentioned eating less meat in Ireland.
Globally, 14.5% of planet-warming emissions emanate from the keeping and eating of cows, chickens, pigs and other animals – more than the emissions from the entire transport sector. ....
Thelonious Monk wrote: » https://www.tipperarylive.ie/news/farming/615901/anger-and-disgust-in-tipp-as-15-carves-are-dumped-in-drains.html Calves are really getting a raw deal these days with the exports and this carry on
Tilikum17 wrote: » “Irish farmers love their animals” The rubbish you have to read on here. It’s nothing new.https://www.farmersjournal.ie/dead-calves-dumped-in-roscommon-bog-585260
Mac Taylor wrote: » Wow.....generalisation at its best. Tarnish every farmer because of the actions of a tiny tiny minority. A person that dumps their stock like that has to have many issues unfortunately. I could trawl the internet for cases of neglect relating to vegans and apply that to all vegans but I’m not hot wired that way. Anyway keep believing what you want.
Bigbooty wrote: » Well they're dead and thrown in a ditch like trash. I don't know what other proof you'd need for maltreatment. You must have a very unusual definition of bad treatment.. oh wait.
Bigbooty wrote: » Why would I need proof to say that someone doesn't care about their animals because they just dumped them in a ditch? I have never discarded any of the animals in my care like that because I had respect for them. It's an opinion and I can freely state that. I'm not singling out a specific person and slandering them.
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