Murang wrote: » That says it all about cork marts doing everything to help some buyers and treating sellers like second hand people
Butcher Boy wrote: » A young girl starting off took 6 cattle to macroom today 4 blks 2 heifers blks sold well and one of the heifers sold bad a real nice hf 305 kgs 520 ,mart rang her about the price of the blks but no one rang about the heifers .she was following them on he phone so she went in to bring her heifer home went in to the office and was told the heifer was sold and gone .she went out and found her heifer still in the pen went back in and your man would not still give her the heifer things got hot between them and her father was with her and they took the heifer anyway but the prick in the mart would not give them the card. this girl is only 19 years and fair play to her she is some stuff. I am only waiting for Monday morning to come to go in and get the card with her. this will tell you about cork marts shower of ****ers no wonder lads are passing by going down to kerry.
morphy87 wrote: » Back this way all animals are sold subject but as soon as they go through the ring they ring to see are you selling or taking home
Bass Reeves wrote: » Make sure they have not put the animal is in another herd and back into hers . It will count as two movements. Of they have make sure they correct her
grange mac wrote: » That's it, he has a lorry from Castletownbere, skibbereen, durrus and Kealkil. They are only the ones I know of so he probably has more. I hope Cork Marts have a plan to counter this as if not then I would have concerns as that will lead more of the bigger animals there eventually on his other Mart days. But we all know he has some of the buyers who were previously with Cork marts so prices will be strong there. Monday should be ok for prices again as just seen 2 of Hallissys attics enroute back to kerry l. I assume they were carrying calves to the boats today.
MIKEKC wrote: » Why would buyers who were previously with Cork Marts go to another mart if they knew prices were going to be strong there? Would they not be better off staying where they are for lower prices?
Bass Reeves wrote: » Because for all the guff whatever about calves adult cattle Lise a lot of weight waiting to be sold. Bullocks are often standing from 8-10 am in the morning before they enter the ring at 4 pm. At present there is 2-300 cull cows before the bulls and heifers not to mind the bullocks
DukeCaboom wrote: » There's actually very cattle in the morning before the cow sale. Cows aren't over till 2 or 3, lads that bought cows load up and the blks start coming in then.
Bass Reeves wrote: » Cattle coming from West Cork will be loaded early in the morning. Drivers do not make special runs for bullocks or heifers. The trucks are filled with cows, heifers and bullocks. Yes some lads bring there own but a lot of cattle are standing 8 hours before selling not to mind 1-2 hours travelling time. Dealers want to be there from the start as most are buying 2-3 different type of cattle. Dealers make money from haulage. It would all be truck haulage to and from Gortnalea. Dealer is collecting 15/ head to take and 15/ head for delivery of they are going back down there. Dealers love that.
Murang wrote: » A neighbour of mine sold 20 bullocks from west cork about 3 weeks ago in Gortalea cattle left west cork at 12 o clock and were all sold for 5:30
Jjameson wrote: » We have a similar situation in north Wexford. The cooperative mart in Enniscorthy is a dead loss and Carnew is doing all the business. An owner manager makes all the difference.
DukeCaboom wrote: » I'm there myself most Fridays , lorry men buy very little cattle there, the vast majority of the cattle are bought by lads driving cars & wearing flat shoes. You can't actually fit the catalogue of cattle in the yard. Deckers of cows are filled away to make space for the cattle coming in after the cows sale. Only the naive would have blks in their at 11. There's barley 150 cows there at 11 when the cow sale starts.
Albert Johnson wrote: » Generally the movement isn't completed on the day of sale due to there being enough other work to be done in the office. In the case of a Saturday sale the movement probably wouldn't be put through until Monday at the earliest. There's a form that corrects movement errors, I've often seen cattle put into the wrong herd where there were multiple client's with similar names. You could request to have the movement put through ASAP in the case of needing the units for stocking rates, buying permit near expiry ect but otherwise it probably won't be done until the the next working day.
Sheep breeder wrote: » All marts run live on the day and transfer done on the day with the updated system, bought calves in newross yesterday and in the herd this morning.
Albert Johnson wrote: » It's the same in most marts in recent year's. Any man coming to buy bundles of stock is more likely to be driving a Merc or a new Landcruiser and wearing low shoes. When the sale is over or the quota filled the list comes down from the office (hopefully accompanied by a score) and you'll be told there's a lorry enroute to lift them. The lad that comes with a shook lorry or jeep and trailer is usually only buying something value in small number's to pass the time and keep his pension/BPS/legacy or spouses income turning. It takes a serious yard to hold 300-400 cow's before you put the rest of the day's entries along with them. Most of the marts locally would be full to overflowing with 600-700 head of mixed cattle. In the big sale's you'd be looking to get the first of the stock loaded and gone to accommodate the last one's. I'd imagine that Gortatlea wouldn't be any different in that respect.
Sheep breeder wrote: » A lot of the big buyers have the lorry on standby in the yard, in a lot of marts the big buyers have the a set pen from the ring, one guy from around here who buys a lot of cows in several marts has his double lorry backed on to the bay before the sale starts and when a load is bought the second lorry is sent for. As Albert says about the smaller buyer around here they are called the Ivor Williams buyer when he gets his 5 or 6 as quick as possible they are gone home.
Albert Johnson wrote: » Certain marts allocate pen numbers especially to bigger buyers to avoid having to gather the stock after the sale. Other marts particularly in the North mark the stock with paint or a marker spray and pen them accordingly. I know a few of the Ivor William's type lad's, stock could get €50 cheaper when they get a few bought. They can't wait to get away and so bid strong until they fill the quota and can't get loaded up fast enough. The shrewd buyer will stand around the ring until everything is sold, oftentimes the best value is in the later lot's.
DukeCaboom wrote: » Listowel in my experience be the strictest, everything has to be sorted that evening re. herd numbers etc. No ill ring back in the morning crack.
Theheff wrote: » I think online has changed alot of that. Lads buying in several marts in one day from there arm chair at home. In many cases lads not evening viewing them before. I know a guy that buys his few cattle from work while having his tea break. Arranges a guy to pick them up and cattle are on his farm by the time he gets home. Was looking at online sales last week, the trade seems to of picked up well. Always the same every year lads buying for grass. I read somewhere lately that store bullocks are scares. Is this the case do ye know?? Surely there is a good shot of 2 year old bullocks out there unless of course alot were finished as bulls instead. I know a good few guys that by these type of stock every year, Particularly older men that have no sheds etc.
Albert Johnson wrote: » Buying them from the comfort of the armchair unseen seems ideal in theory but you could get an awakening when you'd see them in the flesh. I know lot's of seasoned men that got stung at the beginning of the online sales so anything could happen an amateur. Grafted some lad's would buy a mixed bag when ringside so it might not be that big of an issue for them. Stock always get dearer from now on and this year is no exception. They'd want to though after having the thick end of the winter over them, take €200 off most cattle atm and you'll be back at near what they'd have made off grass in October. I don't know if store bullocks are scarce in general but the sort of cattle the auld lad's go for might be. In my opinion there's less quality suckler bred cattle about every year and more middle of the road dairy type stock in there place.
jd_12345 wrote: » Watching Macroom yesterday. Average 300kg bullocks making €650 and then lovely SI X LM bullocks came in roughly 320kg making about €720. These were loevly growthy lads. Its hard for sucklers to stand the going if they're not getting properly paid. Anything with Simmental blood down here seems to struggle in the ring.
morphy87 wrote: » What is this mart doing that it is getting so much cattle?
Theheff wrote: » I think online has changed alot of that. Lads buying in several marts in one day from there arm chair at home. In many cases lads not even viewing them before. I know a guy that buys his few cattle from work while having his tea break. Arranges a guy to pick them up and cattle are on his farm by the time he gets home. Was looking at online sales last week, the trade seems to of picked up well. Always the same every year lads buying for grass. I read somewhere lately that store bullocks are scares. Is this the case do ye know?? Surely there is a good shot of 2 year old bullocks out there unless of course alot were finished as bulls instead. I know a good few guys that by these type of stock every year, Particularly older men that have no sheds etc.
Hard Knocks wrote: » Not much different around here either A Simmental heifer will go a good price while even the best Simmental bulls would make much less than Limousin Is there something about bad know keep kill out
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