faceman wrote: » That took him an hour I mean it’s not much to moan about but I feel that I’m not working out properly unless I’ve something to moan about.
faceman wrote: » I’ve been training at an outdoor gym thing by the beach in Spain. This is becoming a regular sight: There are a couple of russians working out most days. (I know they’re Russian because they told me). Both built like robocop, one of them had to be on the 'roids. This was one of their set: * arrives, chats with his mate for a bit. * Throws ball for his dog twice * Does a few pulls up on the bar. * throws ball for his dog twice * talks to his mate * throws ball for his dog twice * does a couple of squats with a db * throws ball for his dog twice * talks to his mate * throws ball for his dog twice That took him an hour I mean it’s not much to moan about but I feel that I’m not working out properly unless I’ve something to moan about.
faceman wrote: » I’ve been training at an outdoor gym thing by the beach in Spain. This is becoming a regular sight: There are a couple of russians working out most days. (I know they’re Russian because they told me). Both built like robocop, one of them had to be on the 'roids.
Zillah wrote: » I have seen a few examples recently of people using the assisted pull-up machine for what I can only imagine is the lightest leg workout imaginable: they put one foot on it with a large counter-weight and push it down with their foot for, like, fifty reps. What does this do for you that body-weight squats don't - am I missing something? Looks like a great way to waste a piece of equipment.
gagomes wrote: » This is far more likely to be a glute workout than a leg workout. You could argue the leg press is better and probably is if you use a band around knees, but you may just get a better contraction/range with it
Mellor wrote: » The gluten are a leg muscle. The muscle it’s working is irrelevant. The issue is people programming exercises like that for other are clueless and likely just copying dumb this they see online.
italodisco wrote: » I agree with you that theres an abundance of absolutely rubbish new exercise methods out there and personal trainer programing appears to be based of Instagram amateurs. BUT...... and you'll probably disagree.. The glute is not a leg muscle. It is its own independent nation. The glute plays a role in certain leg / hip / pelvic movements but I would always class it as separate to leg. It's also responsible for some of the most ridiculous made up hocus pocus training moves of modern times. I've been training 23 years now and in the last 3 years I've never laughed so much in the gym! Baffled as to how I managed to develop a fantastic arse by just doing hip thrusts, sissy squats, glute bridges, single leg kickbacks... Yet the modern day gym rat has an arsenal of hybrid moves and have little to show for it
GreeBo wrote: » If people without legs have glutes then the glutes are not leg muscles!
italodisco wrote: » I agree with you that theres an abundance of absolutely rubbish new exercise methods out there and personal trainer programing appears to be based of Instagram amateurs.
BUT...... and you'll probably disagree.. The glute is not a leg muscle. It is its own independent nation. The glute plays a role in certain leg / hip / pelvic movements but I would always class it as separate to leg.
Mellor wrote: » I’m pretty sure the glutes only role is articulation of the femur, and movement of the hip. Leg bone, leg joint. Can’t see how it’s belongs anywhere other than leg day.
Mellor wrote: » . I’m pretty sure the glutes only role is articulation of the femur, and movement of the hip. Leg bone, leg joint.
italodisco wrote: » That's highly debatable...
Then on Saturday I will give a whole morning to my glutes and hips covering the max/medial and minimus along with abductors etc. I would need to be airlifted to hospital if I tried to put that all together, and that's not forgetting hamstrings which I do on back day!!!!
JayRoc wrote: » Would you consider the deltoid an arm muscle?
Mellor wrote: » Shoulders are basically arm arses.
italodisco wrote: » But for those who have gone beyond beginner/intermediate stage and are into the advanced stage of training it is more typical for their programing to consider the glutes as separate to the legs.
italodisco wrote: » That's highly debatable, for most folk trotting around flyfit or paying a personal trainer who has a diploma from the National Training Centre then glutes would be trained on leg day, but for those who have gone beyond beginner/intermediate stage and are into the advanced stage of training it is more typical for their programing to consider the glutes as separate to the legs. It is highly taxing on the Central Nervous System to give the glutes the level of intensity they need on the same day as hammering the quadriceps, unless the individual is running anabolic compounds. Then again this is subjective and all depends on the training methods. I will train quads and calves in an hours time. I will do 4 sets of reverse pyramid front squats, followed by 3 sets of back squats with heels raised on wooden block. Then I will do 6 sets of sissy squats using different foot positioning. Then onto 6 sets of high rep calf raise followed by 3 sets of 'near to failure' heavy as hell calf raises. Then on Saturday I will give a whole morning to my glutes and hips covering the max/medial and minimus along with abductors etc. I would need to be airlifted to hospital if I tried to put that all together, and that's not forgetting hamstrings which I do on back day!!!! Yep, I'm a bit nuts, but extremely proud of my legs and glutes. Obsessed even!
gagomes wrote: » I beg to differ. Glutes form the gluteal muscle group and although part of the same kinetic chain as legs, they are it's own muscle group.
silverharp wrote: » what is the consensus with weighted glute work? it was something I had started doing after the summer , gym had the BB hip thruster machine and a kick back one. wasnt something that took long and didnt get in the way of doing anything else. Coincidentally , hamstring niggles I used to get sprinting went away so if it played any role thats good enough for me
Alf Veedersane wrote: » The glutes are pretty important. Weighted glute work is a good idea. You do deadlifts? Weighted glute work. Anything that is weighted and involves hip extension is weighted glute work. A lot of those exercises will also work the hamstrings and it's no surprise stronger hamstrings had fewer niggles.
silverharp wrote: » I am doing more dead lift - landmine, and some weighted glute bridges just with plates while gyms are closed. i'd imagine using a bar in the middle of a gym is a bit off putting and time wasting, the machine is great though.
Zyzzin wrote: » I've devoted myself to this for years, I treat the gym like a temple!
Zyzzin wrote: » When groups of untrained people 2 or more, come in and interfere in anyway with your workout when you know they're not sticking around long term. They talk, treat the gym like a meeting place, usually fat, will feel no shame taking up equipment. This has happened countless times over the years, typically happens when there are both guys and girls in the group. In my current set up I'm not joking 7 Indian students take up the tiny gym we have to: 1. Perform traditional dance 2. Do "yoga" 3. **** around constantly moving from machine to machine with zero purpose 4. Judge me because I'm not one of them 5. Have the cheek to tell me I'm not allowed in because of the 3 person limit but they're OK because they're from "the same household", all 7 of them! I've devoted myself to this for years, I treat the gym like a temple! To me its the equivalent of their Taj Mahal, and I'm sure in whatever Bollywood culture they've observed, telling me to get out somehow makes them the hero which is a painful thought to bare. If I were to enter some place of worship and was asked to remove my shoes, I would do so immediately due to it being disrespectful not to. They of all people I would have assumed would understand. (And yes I feel the gym is a sacred place, constant devotion to a higher purpose) But deep down I find a calmness in the fact that I know they won't train seriously and will continue to be fat ****s all their lives. Most likely never understanding why and growing upset with the world for being the way they are. And if they changed, actually committed themselves to train seriously over years, I'd be equally as happy.
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