quokula wrote: » This won’t be a popular opinion but by the end the whole arc the show struck me as falling into some pretty sexist tropes. Female superhero turns out to literally be a witch, also creates the whole mess because she couldn’t control her emotions and really just wanted to live happily ever after with husband and kids. I say this as someone who’s never read the comics and saw most of the films but barely remembers the details as I view them as light and breezy popcorn flicks. So I guess there’s certain obligations to being somewhat faithful to decades old source material, which is somewhat ironic when they used the early sitcom episodes to call out some of those old fashioned attitudes.
Mr.Nice Guy wrote: » Absolute load of pish. I'm really annoyed at myself for not quitting on this show early on. Sure enough, it was a pathetic bait-and-switch on the part of the writers to tease X-Men involvement and then not deliver on it. The show descended into something I've heard Mark Kermode bring up when referring to the MCU: whenever there is an interesting story to be told it invariably fizzles out with a CGI light show in the final act. That's exactly what happened in this episode. And then I almost fell out of my chair when we were subjected to that laughable bit of dialogue between Monica and Wanda. 'They'll never know what you sacrificed for them'. What was that? Giving up a phony and fictitious family that necessitated them all being incarcerated for weeks in a hellhole where they had their minds controlled? Where they will have probably been traumatised so badly it will affect them for the rest of their days? GTFO out of here. And then Wanda Pissemalloff doesn't even have the decency to apologize for her outrageous selfishness. I can't help but wonder how these writers would fare had they not got millions of dollars to blow on CGI effects, and had to actually put more thought into crafting storylines that had to make some sort of sense. Overall, this was a dreadful show that relied on cheap gimmicks early on, as well as teasing their audience, in order to mask what was, ultimately, a very bland, boring storyline involving bland, boring and mostly made-up characters.
Mr.Nice Guy wrote: » And then I almost fell out of my chair when we were subjected to that laughable bit of dialogue between Monica and Wanda. 'They'll never know what you sacrificed for them'. What was that? Giving up a phony and fictitious family that necessitated them all being incarcerated for weeks in a hellhole where they had their minds controlled? Where they will have probably been traumatised so badly it will affect them for the rest of their days? GTFO out of here. And then Wanda Pissemalloff doesn't even have the decency to apologize for her outrageous selfishness.
paulbok wrote: » In the final end credit scene when the Scarlet Witch astral form was reading the book it sounded like her kids were calling out to her for help?
brevity wrote: » This frustrated me too. She locked kids away from their parents ffs. It’s like the writers forgot (or were told) she’s supposed to be a good guy/gal. For a minute I thought that there was gonna be a bit of a twist that Agatha was going save the town and pull Wanda out of her dream world. Not necessarily to be a hero but to mess with Wanda’s head (destroying her family etc). Would have preferred this tbh.
Mr.Nice Guy wrote: » bland, boring and mostly made-up characters.
Sakana wrote: » Aren't all characters made up?
pjohnson wrote: » Wait so Raccoons and Tree's dont actually talk?
RedRochey wrote: » So did Evan Pieters character have superspeed already or did agatha give him that power?
The White Wolf wrote: » I think it's harsh to call it fan entitlement given it was clearly stunt casting to boost hype for the show. But it is what it is, I'm not going to waste further breath on it other than say I hope to see more of Peters in the MCU.
expectationlost wrote: » how much of this was shot during the pandemic?
jface187 wrote: » Going into it my other half had told me that Mephisto was going to be in (She had seen a funko pop of him apparently), The Paul Bettany interview where he talked about working with someone he always wanted to work with and assuming that Doctor Strange to pop up. When none of these things happened, I didn't mind. I enjoyed it without any of that stuff. The only thing is a couple of nagging questions. Who put the letter in Wanda's car, telling her to go to the house? and Quicksilver casting leads to nothing really. Watching the post-credit scene, I got evil dead vibes, I know Rami doing Doctor Strange 2, so probably why it poped into my head.
Lithium93_ wrote: » They restarted in September 2020, and wrapped in November, so 2 months
Brian CivilEng wrote: » So maybe that was why the characters didn't seem to interact with each other much in the last episode. I was wondering if that was the reason.
Penn wrote: » If there's one thing the MCU needs, it's more Bohner!
Foxtrol wrote: » Everything that happened in the sitcom mattered and built into the story for everyone in the Hex and even outside it.
Mitch Connor wrote: » The pietro thing annoys me. Disney bought Fox, Disney have the rights to those movies, and the guy played QS in those movies. If he was just some nobody Agnes used to mess with Wanda then he should have been some nobody Agnes used. Its not like Wanda knew there was an alt Pietro and this guy looks the exact same as him. The ONLY reason to cast him as QS is to plant the exact theories that the fans came up with. Fans didn't read too much into it, fans read exactly what the showrunners wanted them to read into it. For it to have ment nothing is a massive slap in the face to the fans, imo. With the rumours of Toby Maguire and Andrew Garfield in Spider-Man 3, will they also just be some randoms if they are in it? If they are in it will it be the fans fault for expecting some connection with the Spider-Man movies?
FunLover18 wrote: » I definitely need to watch it again now that my expectations have been lowered because I did find that underwhelming and I think, like others have mentioned, my expectations were heavily influenced by the speculation and theories when in reality the story was a very simple one and that’s not necessarily a criticism. I was disappointed by the “villains” however, I thought they were poorly written in terms of their motives and when you look back at the show they never really posed any threat. Neither Agatha nor Hayward were proactive in any meaningful way, in fact for the majority of the series they were as clueless as to what was going on as the audience which isn’t something you want from your big bad. Agatha spent 1-2 weeks pretending to fit in as the nosy neighbour trying to figure out what Wanda is up to and then turns into a fairly rote “I want your power” villain, we don’t know why she wants her power or what she wants to do with it, we really don’t know anything about Agatha or what she’s been up to since the witch trial scene, which is a shame because I think they could have had a lot more fun with her being immortal and utilised Hahn more. She was way more entertaining in her nosy neighbour character but as soon as the reveal happened, that playfulness and sense of mischief vanished, the Wizard of Oz reference was good but it was a visual gag where Agatha wasn’t even on screen. I wanted to see the villain who would think to do that and I didn’t. Hayward also was just a run of the mill evil military man who wanted a new toy to play with and similar to Agatha he was an observer of Wandavision from the outset. Why send White Vision to destroy Vision when he literally witnessed Vision falling apart when he tried to leave the Hex, why send WV into the Hex at all when you already have what you want. Again I felt his motives and characterisation were weak. I enjoyed the Vision off (Visioff?), the way they used their phasing powers against each other was really cool and inventive and as has been said the philosophical climax was very clever. I am also confused as to what happened WV though and find it strange that no one in the show seemed to care about this. I wish I could say I enjoyed Wanda vs Agatha as much but two people throwing balls of light at each other was really boring and disappointing, maybe they used all the budget on the Visions but I expected a lot more from two witches who can manipulate reality. A few other small things that annoyed me: What took Vision so long to get to Wanda from the van, a small nitpick Agatha spent so long manipulating Vision, almost encouraging him to see the truth and I don’t think we got a single noteable interaction between them in the finale I’m still confused as to how Agatha gave Ralph super speed I just needed to get all the negatives feelings out there, overall I did enjoy and I think I’ll enjoy it more when I rewatch it with the knowledge of what’s coming. On the Evan Peters’s casting; I’ve made my views clear before, I think it was a really fun wink but more importantly I thought he was great in the role and he had good chemistry with Olsen. There does seem to be a note of fan entitlement in some posts I’ve seen, I get that people are disappointed but to take it as personally as some people seem to be is a bit much.
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