GreeBo wrote: » Right, which is what the 5 lockdown level rules are. We then tried to apply golf under those rules and it didnt work out too well, but as I said earlier, if the option is no golf, I'd still rather the 2 household rules. Who are you blaming for the idiotic rules? Gov, Nphet, Sport Ireland, Golf Ireland, etc? Each of them is operating at a different level and operates under the rules they are given from above.
RGS wrote: » Greenbo as others have stated you put in place rules that are logically and easily implemented. What was proposed was idiotic.
GreeBo wrote: » Hey man. sure all sport is exercise, but all exercise isnt and doesnt have to be sport. The government arent trying to allow everyone to play sports, they are allowing everyone to exercise by keeping public spaces open to those within 5km. These are two totally different things! There are a million things that could arguably be still done safely, but thats not what happens during a lockdown, would you like hundreds of thousands being spent on quangos to give guidance for every single passtime during each lockdown level? I sure as hell wouldnt. This is a world event, being allowed to exercise during a lockdown is a "privilege", being allowed to do whatever exercise you want isnt a right.
thecomedian wrote: » I just asked you a question. Do you know how many people got COVID from playing golf?
GreeBo wrote: » Do you know how many people got COVID from gyms in Ireland? How about while playing cricket, maybe tennis? Rugby? Darts? What about a funeral? Wedding? How much effort and cost do you expect the government to put into analysing every aspect of the countries social life to come up with the 5 variations required for each lockdown level for every scenario?
thecomedian wrote: » Do you know how many people got COVID from playing golf in Ireland?
GreeBo wrote: » And not very long ago we were global leaders in COVID infection rates, so I dont think you can compare what we are doing with what other countries are doing. We dont have curfews for example.
benny79 wrote: » Yes it is and most other countries are allowing activities such as Golf and tennis etc Sure even elite sports are allowed in this world event.
GreeBo wrote: » This is a world event,
Seve OB wrote: » Exactly. So why then are the parks not closed? The point is, as you say exercise is essential but not everybody exercises in the same way. By allowing the parks open for those who do their exercise there but closing other outdoor spaces such as golf courses is discrimination.
Break80 wrote: » What are you on about man. All sport is exercise even darts for God's sake. <snip> Even you can agree there are a number of sports that can be played safely.
RGS wrote: » GreenBo I have to disagree with you on the 2 household suggestion. It was a silly rule. Adhering to the rule you could have had 2 balls, 3 balls and 4 balls on the time sheet which is totally unworkable and creates headaches for the golf shop staff. It was totally not thought through. Sport Ireland just took what was the guidance for outdoor socialising and failed to adapt for sports. I notice that golf in England is returning with 4 balls allowed.
GreeBo wrote: » I dont think there is any exercise that can "only" be done in parks?
GreeBo wrote: » Not at all, if you can show where I said that, that would be great! You can of course exercise in a multitude of ways, but during a *global pandemic* the strange people in government are trying to limit the spread of the virus in our country, hence we are in a maximum lockdown, with people only leaving their homes for essential reasons or for exercise (within a 5km limit) Your argument seems to be that you can only exercise on a golf course, if the country is only open for essential reasons, why do you think golf is an essential form of exercise? The purpose of golf is not exercise, its to play golf. You don't need to play golf, you do need to exercise, hence public spaces are open for exercise and golf courses are not open for golf. Common sense would lead you to realise that golf is not essential for exercise, hence its not open, but you know what they say about common sense!
Seve OB wrote: » Ok I’ll rephrase. As you consider exercise to be essential (and I’m with you on that) what exercise can only be done in parks and nowhere else?
GreeBo wrote: » Sorry, I don't understand the question. Exercise is essential, hence parks are open to give people access for exercise. I dont think there is any such thing as an "essential exercise"?
willabur wrote: » It was a very silly rule. Even if the club was trying to enforce it there were 3 and 4 balls being made up on the 1st tee
Seve OB wrote: » What essential exercises can only be done in parks?
RoadRunner wrote: » Your stance is that people can ONLY exercise in a park and would not be able to do same on a course. I mean I get the idea of trying to see an argument from all sides but at some point (when common sense is disregarded) it's really just trolling and further discussion is pointless.
Seve OB wrote: » Unlikely. It’s my second club. I don’t play a lot of golf there, credits option suits me for a few games here and there, and bring the family to the restaurant. Restaurant was gone to pot and prices gone stupid even before COVID so we were going less. I hope they will extend my renewal date, as it is I have only spent about a hundred quid or so. Unlikely I’ll be spending any time in the restaurant before my renewal, they offer a burger on the patio which I refuse to pay €9 for. If it was €5 I’d probably buy 2 every round. Can’t really see myself spending more that a few hundred on my golf between reopening and renewal date. Might get the clubs regripped so that will eat a chunk of it but I’m still likely to have a large balance left. If they do something sensible, I will stay but probably change to a 5 day as 1500 is to much per year now as I don’t see it being as good a value as it used to be. If they don’t play ball, I’ll buy some vouchers or something and leave.
gypsy79 wrote: » You will get it next October. It runs for a year You are Castleknock so I would guess that the bargaining power is less there? For example we at Elmgreen appear much better getting concessions from Carr than Corballis
gypsy79 wrote: » They did give 13 months for the price of 12 and a price freeze which is a lot more than other clubs which is equivalent to over 100 euro
Seve OB wrote: » Yes for anyone who renewed from 1st of December. Feck all use to me who renewed in October.
