GreeBo wrote: » i'm saying that parks are open to allow people to take essential exercise, golf isnt essential exercise, so its not open.
Kiith wrote: » "If golf opens, other sports will want to re-open as well." or something to that effect.
RGS wrote: » I hope we don't have the idiotic 2 household codswallop that was suggested before the last lockdown. If they need to have a restriction just allow 3 balls for the 1st month and move to 4 balls in may and I manage most will be happy.
blue note wrote: » In fairness, that was unenforceable last time around anyway. I think our club took the approach that it was up to the members to comply, so the result was that the timesheet was full of fourballs. Similar to the 5k limit, very few clubs tried to stop members playing when they knew they were coming from more than 5k.
GreeBo wrote: » I'm specifically not arguing that there is necessarily any difference in risk of transmission, i'm saying that parks are open to allow people to take essential exercise, golf isnt essential exercise, so its not open.
finglashoop wrote: » and will Carr be doing anything for members who are are paid up?
Break80 wrote: » I got an email from my club Friday. We have increased members times, no restrictions on the amount of golf you play, all greenfee tickets you bought last year to be extended to Oct this year and €200.00 on your card to be spent in the clubhouse, You need to pay in full by middle of March. I think that's very fair.
gypsy79 wrote: » They did give 13 months for the price of 12 and a price freeze which is a lot more than other clubs which is equivalent to over 100 euro
Seve OB wrote: » Yes for anyone who renewed from 1st of December. Feck all use to me who renewed in October.
gypsy79 wrote: » You will get it next October. It runs for a year You are Castleknock so I would guess that the bargaining power is less there? For example we at Elmgreen appear much better getting concessions from Carr than Corballis
Seve OB wrote: » Unlikely. It’s my second club. I don’t play a lot of golf there, credits option suits me for a few games here and there, and bring the family to the restaurant. Restaurant was gone to pot and prices gone stupid even before COVID so we were going less. I hope they will extend my renewal date, as it is I have only spent about a hundred quid or so. Unlikely I’ll be spending any time in the restaurant before my renewal, they offer a burger on the patio which I refuse to pay €9 for. If it was €5 I’d probably buy 2 every round. Can’t really see myself spending more that a few hundred on my golf between reopening and renewal date. Might get the clubs regripped so that will eat a chunk of it but I’m still likely to have a large balance left. If they do something sensible, I will stay but probably change to a 5 day as 1500 is to much per year now as I don’t see it being as good a value as it used to be. If they don’t play ball, I’ll buy some vouchers or something and leave.
RoadRunner wrote: » Your stance is that people can ONLY exercise in a park and would not be able to do same on a course. I mean I get the idea of trying to see an argument from all sides but at some point (when common sense is disregarded) it's really just trolling and further discussion is pointless.
willabur wrote: » It was a very silly rule. Even if the club was trying to enforce it there were 3 and 4 balls being made up on the 1st tee
Seve OB wrote: » What essential exercises can only be done in parks?
GreeBo wrote: » Sorry, I don't understand the question. Exercise is essential, hence parks are open to give people access for exercise. I dont think there is any such thing as an "essential exercise"?
Seve OB wrote: » Ok I’ll rephrase. As you consider exercise to be essential (and I’m with you on that) what exercise can only be done in parks and nowhere else?
GreeBo wrote: » Not at all, if you can show where I said that, that would be great! You can of course exercise in a multitude of ways, but during a *global pandemic* the strange people in government are trying to limit the spread of the virus in our country, hence we are in a maximum lockdown, with people only leaving their homes for essential reasons or for exercise (within a 5km limit) Your argument seems to be that you can only exercise on a golf course, if the country is only open for essential reasons, why do you think golf is an essential form of exercise? The purpose of golf is not exercise, its to play golf. You don't need to play golf, you do need to exercise, hence public spaces are open for exercise and golf courses are not open for golf. Common sense would lead you to realise that golf is not essential for exercise, hence its not open, but you know what they say about common sense!
GreeBo wrote: » I dont think there is any exercise that can "only" be done in parks?
Seve OB wrote: » Exactly. So why then are the parks not closed? The point is, as you say exercise is essential but not everybody exercises in the same way. By allowing the parks open for those who do their exercise there but closing other outdoor spaces such as golf courses is discrimination.
RGS wrote: » GreenBo I have to disagree with you on the 2 household suggestion. It was a silly rule. Adhering to the rule you could have had 2 balls, 3 balls and 4 balls on the time sheet which is totally unworkable and creates headaches for the golf shop staff. It was totally not thought through. Sport Ireland just took what was the guidance for outdoor socialising and failed to adapt for sports. I notice that golf in England is returning with 4 balls allowed.
Break80 wrote: » What are you on about man. All sport is exercise even darts for God's sake. <snip> Even you can agree there are a number of sports that can be played safely.
GreeBo wrote: » This is a world event,
benny79 wrote: » Yes it is and most other countries are allowing activities such as Golf and tennis etc Sure even elite sports are allowed in this world event.
GreeBo wrote: » And not very long ago we were global leaders in COVID infection rates, so I dont think you can compare what we are doing with what other countries are doing. We dont have curfews for example.
thecomedian wrote: » Do you know how many people got COVID from playing golf in Ireland?
GreeBo wrote: » Do you know how many people got COVID from gyms in Ireland? How about while playing cricket, maybe tennis? Rugby? Darts? What about a funeral? Wedding? How much effort and cost do you expect the government to put into analysing every aspect of the countries social life to come up with the 5 variations required for each lockdown level for every scenario?
thecomedian wrote: » I just asked you a question. Do you know how many people got COVID from playing golf?
