hi! wrote: » Why should people that have to work in Dublin not be able to afford a home near it? All the main big teaching hospitals are in Dublin....they need to be staffed.
JimmyVik wrote: » Its the people who dont work, who are living in Dublin that are causing more of an issue
Villa05 wrote: » The one positive thing about this thread is that it shines a light on those that get things right and those that are out of their depth, including many iuseful posts by yourself. Continually DCC have proven to be an outlier in poor performance in housing provision. I think it would be best if there reports and testimony on housing were treated with a grain of salt Many of the sorrounding councils seem to be able to deliver housing at a fraction of the cost when given the resources Like any job you get those with competency and track record in performing the task We appear to be entering the phase where the bubble is spreading out from the major cities But of course housing is affordable that's why every new house is subsidised by the state as well as 50% of the rents
fliball123 wrote: » I am sorry have you looked at the prices in London/Paris and Madrid Dublin's house prices are a lot cheaper. If you feel so strongly then leave no one is putting a gun to anyone's head to buy or live here
MacronvFrugals wrote: » Get a cheap sign and some cupcakes made and challenge Leo for the FG leadership!
Mic 1972 wrote: » no need to become aggressive
Cyrus wrote: » only its nowhere near as expensive. and while it may not compare to london its streets ahead of any where else in ireland as a city and its our capital.
fliball123 wrote: » So now no one living in Dublin works in Dublin or in the surrounding counties?? Have you got any proof that currently Dublin has no one living in it that works there?? I know I am being a bit silly with that line of questioning but you get the point. People make the decision to work in Dublin that decision is on them and their employers to sort something out. Hospitals should be incentivising staff and schools its students by having access to property and giving it out at lower rents. I know a lot of nursing homes have this for their staff the rent they pay is at a much lower rate than the norm in the area. Also there will be a lot more working from home as well which should ease the problem your talking about.
JimmyVik wrote: » And €5m marketing consultant
Yurt! wrote: » I'd like to see the sauce for that one.https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-gpii/geographicalprofilesofincomeinireland2016/housing/ CSO statbank for this appears to published by household not individual and has the median gross nationally by household in private rental @ 41,695 median. So if you'd have a stat suggesting that the median salaried worker in private tenure in Dublin is 52k I'd like to see it, because I think that's an extraordinary figure
DataDude wrote: » Clueless on fixer-uppers so was hoping I could source some experiences on here. I've looked all over the internet but get wild variations in estimates. Perhaps that's indicative of the fact that it's hard to estimate...but anyway: Any thoughts on what it might cost to: A) to retrofit this house (https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/36-albert-road-lower-glenageary-county-dublin/4485382) to B3 BER or better standard with nice modern finish (e.g. This level of internal quality fixtures/fittings https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/58-gledswood-park-clonskeagh-dublin-14/4484356) Cost to extend by c.75m2 (if possible & subject to P.P.) Would €150k - €200k for A and €200k - €250k for B sound about right or am I way off? On a related point, when bidding on a fixer upper is it just up to you to have a fair idea of what it would cost to do up and just hope you don't get a surprise after the fact? Or would it be possible to get a fairly reliable estimate before completing the sale? Assume you can't send out a tender on something you don't own but can you do something similar that you could place a strong reliance on? Have heard horror stories from friends of costs escalating by huge amounts and am very keen to avoid if we do go down the fixer upper road.
Balluba wrote: » Don’t agree!! I moved to Dublin from the midlands because there was no university in the Midlands. I have stayed in Dublin for work and then I had a family here. The Midlands though will always be streets ahead of Dublin for me.
schmittel wrote: » Are you from Dublin? Have you lived anywhere else?
Cyrus wrote: » No i am not and yes i have.
schmittel wrote: » Lived elsewhere in Ireland or in another city outside Ireland?
Cyrus wrote: » well given i am not from Dublin i have lived elsewhere in ireland, and i have also lived in a major asian city for a period as well as London. I travel back to both 4-5 times a year.
schmittel wrote: » From experience I find that most of those people who say "London and Dublin are both capital cities, so they're comparable etc" have never actually lived in London. I just assumed this was the case with you.
Cyrus wrote: » I didn’t compare London to Dublin though. So you were pretty far off the mark. There is also a massive premium to pay to live in London over Dublin .
fliball123 wrote: As for affordability I maintain property in IRELAND is affordable for the majority. Dublin is not and maybe some other areas with large population sizes like Cork maybe less affordable then say Rosscommon or Tipperary. Dublin is a capital city with the best infrastructure and attractions when compared to the rest of the country it has the main airport and currently houses about 1/5 of the total population. ergo its a place the majority would like to live in and as such there is a premium to be paid. Just like London, Paris, New York, Sydney, Rome, Brussels, Copenhagen, Madrid, Berlin the list goes on and on. Why should Dublin be any different and we need to get away from using Dublin metrics extrapolating it for the rest of the country and using it as a measure of Ireland's property prices being too high
Villa05 wrote: » If it is affordable for the majority why are 50% of rents and up to 100% of new builds subsidised by the taxpayer Is it that they are too cheap and the state needs to make up the difference? Dublin, Cork and Galway are too expensive and it appears that this is now leading to significant increases outside the main cities Does this trend sound familiar to you from our previous bubble? Do continued government interventions that drive up price sound familiar Does access to cheap finance sond familiar Do low interest rates in what was a booming economy sound familiar All contributers to the previous bubble and subsequent crash
schmittel wrote: » Fair enough, I suppose that was my more polite way of saying my memory of most deluded people on Dublin's value being the capital in the last property bull market had never lived in London.
Cyrus wrote: » Again that’s fine but off the mark as it relates to me and what I said.
schmittel wrote: » Does fear of missing out sound familiar?!
schmittel wrote: » I have already said it was an assumption, so what's the problem?
Cyrus wrote: » You keep clarifying yourself despite the fact it was completely off the mark, that’s the problem. Say you were wrong and move on maybe ?
Cyrus wrote: » anyway, i agree with you on your second point, i have a decent job here and was offered the chance to move to London, i reckoned that i would need to earn 3 times as much to have a similar house in a similar area and maintain the familys lifestyle. So Ireland will do for me
