beggars_bush wrote: » Would like to see a breakdown of where arrivals are coming from And how many of them are returning Irish residents
malinheader wrote: » I wonder by April 5th will they have a proper quarantine service set up for the tens of thousands entering the country. Should of been implemented strictly before vaccine roll out. Simpleton is correct.
is_that_so wrote: » Leo does the same, it's just keeping the party in the loop on thinking. There's no promise in that and 10km seems even more arbitrary than 5km. In Martin's case it's how all about how he frames it, he's a worrier whereas Leo is chatty and tends to be far more positive about everything.
is_that_so wrote: » It's only planned to be from certain locations. Interning everyone would overload any system very fast.
malinheader wrote: » Agreed, but mandatory quarantine for no one at this stage is a joke. Hard decisions should of been made. What happens if a new variant is carried in and spread leaving the vaccine useless or less effective,which is a big possibility. Do we then start to take quarantine at points of entry serious.
is_that_so wrote: » It's not really a possibility unless you're reading clueless media reports and you can't forcibly detain someone on the off chance that they might have a previously unknown variant. There are literally hundreds of thousands of of variants but none of the small number of problematic variants to date can escape the vaccine-induced immune response.
malinheader wrote: » As you said TO DATE. Fingers crossed. I am supposed to stay within 5k of home. Can't cross over into northern Ireland yet thousands can still fly into Ireland. Am I missing something here. Mandatory quarantine would be more of a deterrent than solution. As I said its going to take hard decisions that our government are incapable of in my eyes.
Klonker wrote: » I don't get this countries obsession about quarentining arrivals in hotels and even more confusing is the government are actually trying to implement it. Like, we heard about a virus sweeping across the world last January and February that at first we thought was a lot more deadly virus than it actually is and we weren't even testing arrivals. Now, a year later when we have vaccines with better effectiveness than anyone could have expected, and we have some strains (thousands of strains so far) that there has been zero proof are any more likely to evade vaccines and no conclusive evidence its even more transmissible (rates are plummeting around the world) and now they are so worried that they are introducing quarentine hotels. It's mental to me and no way a proportionate response. An antigen test when before you leave and that should be enough in my book. You won't catch it all but you'll catch majority of cases.
RunningFlyer wrote: » Completely agree with this. Not only has the horse bolted, but it has run laps at Cheltenham and won the Grand National yet the government continue to lead blindly based on social media rhetoric.
Klonker wrote: » It's like the whole country has lost its collective mind. Other countries are feeling sorry for our level of restrictions while they get on with life and the majority of our population, led by a hyperbole media, looking for harsher restrictions. I'm actually embarrassed for us.
Dempo1 wrote: » The neck on some very Ex former FG members of government, you know the ones, either lost their seats or sent to the back benches. The FG parliamentary party last night said it all, complaints about mixed messages, it would be funny if it wasn't so serious. The very party who leader excels in leakage and mixed messaging and a cohort of embittered has beens tripping over themselves to undermine the very coali they helped form and entered into. Its just shocking hypocrisy led by Regina Doherty, transferred to the seanad after loosing her Dail seat. I'm not suggesting FF have performed admirably either but if there's any blame for mixed messaging and incompetence it can easily be found at FG"s door.
is_that_so wrote: » It is a fear of where Christmas brought us and having no desire to repeat that. They also want to ensure that this is the last one of these we'll have to do. In tandem with that , they are following NPHET advice to the letter, i.e. no change because this needs more time to work. For a lot of people this is how it should be but at the same time they want to know how we'll get out of this. Communicating that is the biggest political failing at present.
is_that_so wrote: » It's really a yearning for last year when there were only two voices, one message! Now everyone's an expert on COVID!
Samsonsmasher wrote: » When this utter lunacy is over we will find holdouts like the Japanese hiding in the jungles who surrendered decades after the war was over..
Deleted User wrote: » It wasn't the government looking for a meaningful christmas, though. It was the citizens who effectively said "we're gonna have christmas whether you let us or not", and the govt. reacted accordingly. People keep ignoring rules, then giving out when the numbers spiral and we've to lockdown again. Go back and listen to any radio, or read any media, at the start of december/end of november. Everyone was moaning and complaining they wanted a christmas. So they got it, and were told in advance it would lead to heavy lockdowns in 2021. Here are those lockdowns and the same people are still moaning. :rolleyes:
Just because the Government made a mess of things doesn’t mean you get to ignore public health guidelines I’ve been noticing a lot of contradictory logic in this sub for the past couple of weeks that I can’t get my head around. The logic being that the government’s “meaningful Christmas” left us in the state we are in now, and that we should protest the new lockdown by doing the very thing we criticised the government for allowing over Christmas? How does this make any sense? I’m not talking about going to a beach by yourself that’s actually 8km away from your home rather than 5, I’m talking about meeting up with friends and family when cases are still as high as they are. It’s the reason why 5km restrictions are staying until at least April, because community transmission is still too high.The more we break restrictions, the longer restaurants, pubs, cinemas, and sports venues stay closed. The vaccine rollout is going well, with around 80% of adults to receive their first dose by June. It’s not long until life can go somewhat back to normal. The government have been shítting the bed for the past few months, which is made worse by one minister telling us something one day, and another minister telling us the opposite the next, but that doesn’t give you a free pass to socialise and transmit the virus which could result in serious illness for some and potentially death.Punish the government in the next ballot box, not by sending your friends and family to the ICU.
ShineOn7 wrote: » The most upvoted post on Reddit Ireland today has some excellent points Just because the Government made a mess of things doesn’t mean you get to ignore public health guidelines I’ve been noticing a lot of contradictory logic in this sub for the past couple of weeks that I can’t get my head around. The logic being that the government’s “meaningful Christmas” left us in the state we are in now, and that we should protest the new lockdown by doing the very thing we criticised the government for allowing over Christmas? How does this make any sense? I’m not talking about going to a beach by yourself that’s actually 8km away from your home rather than 5, I’m talking about meeting up with friends and family when cases are still as high as they are. It’s the reason why 5km restrictions are staying until at least April, because community transmission is still too high. The more we break restrictions, the longer restaurants, pubs, cinemas, and sports venues stay closed. The vaccine rollout is going well, with around 80% of adults to receive their first dose by June. It’s not long until life can go somewhat back to normal. The government have been ****ting the bed for the past few months, which is made worse by one minister telling us something one day, and another minister telling us the opposite the next, but that doesn’t give you a free pass to socialise and transmit the virus which could result in serious illness for some and potentially death. Punish the government in the next ballot box, not by sending your friends and family to the ICU.
Just because the Government made a mess of things doesn’t mean you get to ignore public health guidelines I’ve been noticing a lot of contradictory logic in this sub for the past couple of weeks that I can’t get my head around. The logic being that the government’s “meaningful Christmas” left us in the state we are in now, and that we should protest the new lockdown by doing the very thing we criticised the government for allowing over Christmas? How does this make any sense? I’m not talking about going to a beach by yourself that’s actually 8km away from your home rather than 5, I’m talking about meeting up with friends and family when cases are still as high as they are. It’s the reason why 5km restrictions are staying until at least April, because community transmission is still too high. The more we break restrictions, the longer restaurants, pubs, cinemas, and sports venues stay closed. The vaccine rollout is going well, with around 80% of adults to receive their first dose by June. It’s not long until life can go somewhat back to normal. The government have been ****ting the bed for the past few months, which is made worse by one minister telling us something one day, and another minister telling us the opposite the next, but that doesn’t give you a free pass to socialise and transmit the virus which could result in serious illness for some and potentially death. Punish the government in the next ballot box, not by sending your friends and family to the ICU.
Akesh wrote: » Ah yes, let's listen to the asylum in r/Ireland
PintOfView wrote: » And what's your plan to get the country back to normal, without hospitals being overrun, and without large numbers of excess deaths?
ShineOn7 wrote: » If you want to see an online Irish asylum you can look a lot closer to the Restrictions and "When will it end?" threads on here They've some of the nastiest individuals I've ever seen on here and I've been a Boardsie - on and off - since about 2001 There's 360,000 subscribers on Reddit Ireland. They can't all be bad There's good and bad posters here and there's good and bad posters there. They don't have to be mutually exclusive things Ignoring the rules now because the government made a balls of things is bit like 20 year old looking at their bad, abusive parents and saying "why should I be any different?"
