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Cork developments

snotboogie

I noticed that the Limerick equivalent is a very popular thread over on their forum so I thought I might get one going here. To kick things off I'll list the bigger current projects I can think of:

Under Construction

Navigation Square: Four building office development on the former Navigation House site on Albert Quay. 310,000 sq ft of office space for up to 3000 employees. First phase to be completed Feb 19'

89-90 South Mall: 50,000 sq ft office, 5 storey office building.To be completed in December 18'

Dalata Hotel South Mall: Six storey hotel, 165 beds. To be completed in December 18'

Various Student Accommodation: Western Road and Beamish site are under construction, Crows Nest has planning and should start soon, Square Deal is facing appeals, Coca-Cola site on the Carrigrohane Road has had planning for over a year but nothing has happened? O’Riordans Joinery, Gillen House on Farranlea Road, Model Farm Road/Melbourne Road and Copely Street are all at various stages of planning and/or limbo.

Planning/Appealed

Horgan's Quay: Office Space for 5,000 employees, 200 apartments, 136 bed hotel and 3000 sq metres of restaurants and retail. Got planning permission in March but it was appealed by Port of Cork. Uncertain when the final decision will be. Construction on the Hotel will hopefully begin in Q4 this year with the office and apartments commencing in 2019.

Sullivan's Quay: 6 storey Office & 193 bed 4 star Hotel. Planning granted and immediately appealed. Given that demolition is nearly complete I'd expect this to go into construction as soon as planning is granted. Potential hold up over the height of the hotel, at 12 storeys and 47 metres, it is set to make the top 20 tallest buildings in the state if completed. An Taisce not happy.

Former Victoria Hotel: Knocking much of the Victoria and rebuilding to the back and refurbishing the original historic front/facade and to integrate the two sections into a new high order retail unit, of 25,000 sq ft, over four floors. Rumoured to be taken over by Zara. Planning granted in Feb, nothing happened on site since.

Metropole Redevelopment: €50m redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel to include a new five-storey boutique hotel on Patrick's Quay. Planning granted with amendments in March. No date for work to start.

Wilton Shopping Centre: €100 million revamp proposed. Mistake made in planning permission. In the process of resubmitting.

In Limbo

Event Centre: 6000 all seater multi purpose event centre with a tourist brewery experience. Arguably the most controversial construction project in the history of the city. After a bleak 6 months at the back end of 2017 there have been two instances of positive murmurs from the Government and BAM in January 2018 and April 2018. Construction allegedly to start in Q4 2018 but there are still conflicting and contradictory statements from all parties involved. Most would be shocked to see this start in 2018.

Anderson Quay/Camden Quay/Trinity Quarter: All have had planning for years with no work on site. Camden Quay allegedly had some work going on last week but I'd be shocked if it was related to the actual construction. I can't see any of these sites being developed as per their current proposals.

Concept/Pre Planning

Docklands Tower: 40 storey mixed use tower with the redevelopment of the existing customs house warehouses into cultural, tourist and retail space. By a mile the most ambitious development in Ireland. Announced over one year ago and no sign of a planning permission application yet, allegedly waiting for the Docklands development plan this summer to rezone heights for the site. If we don't see a planning application by the end of the year I'd be worried.

Ford Distribution Depot: Put on sale last week. Former site of the extremely ambitious Atlantic Quarter. Major development opportunity

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Treehelpplease

^ Heathfield in Ballincollig has stuff being built I believe

Curb Your Enthusiasm

rounders wrote: »

Height blocking natural light and lack of parking provided for the hotel if I remember correctly is the local residence issue

There is also someone commenting on poor attempts to maintain the architectural merit of the current building

Not sure why a hotel so central within the city would need on site parking. It's 2021. Common practice across Europe and further afield for City Centre hotels to not have their own parking. The site is also in between two car parks with the even larger Kent car parks a few mins walk away, not to mention it being smack bang between the railway and bus station for public transport users/guests (5 mins walk to each)

rounders

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

Not sure why a hotel so central within the city would need on site parking. It's 2021. Common practice across Europe and further afield for City Centre hotels to not have their own parking. The site is also in between two car parks with the even larger Kent car parks a few mins walk away, not to mention it being smack bang between the railway and bus station for public transport users/guests (5 mins walk to each)

Pretty much exactly what the developer has responded.

I'm was only being the messenger, I don't agree with the need for parking across the road from the bus and train stations for the city

major interest

Jcomm114 wrote: »

Hoping to buy a house next year, would anyone know if there are any new builds due to be available early next year? Either new developments or new phases of current developments.

Would ideally be looking at Cork city, Ballincollig or Blarney. Probably looking for 3/4 bedroom house, with a budget being around 400k.

Not sure anything I can see on Daft hugely appeals to me at the moment/ is affordable so would be great to know if there is anything due to come online soon that I can register my interest for?

(Not sure if this is the right thread, or if it should have it’a own)

Cluain Ard in Blarney and Barters Wood in Tower are new estates in construction/almost complete. Mainly 3/4 bed houses.

ofcork

major interest wrote: »

Cluain Ard in Blarney and Barters Wood in Tower are new estates in construction/almost complete. Mainly 3/4 bed houses.

My brother is in an estate near whites cross Coppinger fields still being developed.

marno21

73 houses going up atm on Sarsfield Heights by O'Brien & O'Flynn. First ones are being finished out now. Will be called Sarsfield Heights if you want to keep an eye out.

[Deleted User]

marno21 wrote: »

73 houses going up atm on Sarsfield Heights by O'Brien & O'Flynn. First ones are being finished out now. Will be called Sarsfield Heights if you want to keep an eye out.

Will it be called Togher or will the developers lie again and call it Wilton. I know the answer already anyway its Wogher. Anyway word on the street is the council have bought the vast majority if not all of them. so much for not building ghettos anymore. Same with the estate across from the Garda station, corporation came in and bought the lot.

leahyl

Anybody have an idea when the lahardane development is starting in Ballyvolane? They got planning last May, thought something would have started already.

opus

Not many apartments on Patrick St, can only think of the front part of the Opera Lane ones.

Cork City Council gives green light to apartment plans for Patrick Street

namloc1980

Massive fire at R&H Hall at the deep water terminal in Ringaskiddy;

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markodaly

Deleted User wrote: »

Will it be called Togher or will the developers lie again and call it Wilton. I know the answer already anyway its Wogher. Anyway word on the street is the council have bought the vast majority if not all of them. so much for not building ghettos anymore. Same with the estate across from the Garda station, corporation came in and bought the lot.

Is there a way to actually see what houses have been bought by LA's for council housing? Can one do a FOI on the matter?

Mumha

Jcomm114 wrote: »

Hoping to buy a house next year, would anyone know if there are any new builds due to be available early next year? Either new developments or new phases of current developments.

Would ideally be looking at Cork city, Ballincollig or Blarney. Probably looking for 3/4 bedroom house, with a budget being around 400k.

Not sure anything I can see on Daft hugely appeals to me at the moment/ is affordable so would be great to know if there is anything due to come online soon that I can register my interest for?

(Not sure if this is the right thread, or if it should have it’a own)

There are a number of houses for sale in the Summerstown/Riverview area of Wilton. There's a bit of changing of the guard going on over the last couple of years, as people who were there when the estate was built, are now passing on. It's a great location for just about everything.

Apogee

https://twitter.com/DroneviewCK/status/1351264403866456090

opus

Really happy to see this bit of progress for the Marina, will make it a lot more usable in the dark winter mornings/evenings.

New roads, footpaths, and lighting promised for Marina

snotboogie

opus wrote: »

Really happy to see this bit of progress for the Marina, will make it a lot more usable in the dark winter mornings/evenings.

New roads, footpaths, and lighting promised for Marina

Great to hear but Terry Shannon has some neck.

Gardner

Rumour has it 2 big modular construction extensions happening to Mercy Hospital and Mallow General Hospital. Anyone know any details?

the beer revolu

Gardner wrote: »

Rumour has it 2 big modular construction extensions happening to Mercy Hospital and Mallow General Hospital. Anyone know any details?

Are the mercy extentions in the ucc/distillery site across the river from the current site?

Shedite27

opus wrote: »

Really happy to see this bit of progress for the Marina, will make it a lot more usable in the dark winter mornings/evenings.

New roads, footpaths, and lighting promised for Marina

Any update on the Marina Park Redevelopment?

opus

the beer revolu wrote: »

Are the mercy extentions in the ucc/distillery site across the river from the current site?

There are plans for lots of stuff in that spot, a new building for the Tyndall Institute plus whatever the Mercy are planning to build. Also for a new footbridge to give a more direct route across.

I jog along there a lot & was surprised by the amount of space once the many years it took to clear out the knotweed jungle was finished.

TheChizler

opus wrote: »

There are plans for lots of stuff in that spot, a new building for the Tyndall Institute plus whatever the Mercy are planning to build. Also for a new footbridge to give a more direct route across.

I jog along there a lot & was surprised by the amount of space once the many years it took to clear out the knotweed jungle was finished.

I was in Tyndall a year or two ago and someone was telling me the plan was for a tunnel under the river. Absolute notions.

bingo9999

Gardner wrote: »

Rumour has it 2 big modular construction extensions happening to Mercy Hospital and Mallow General Hospital. Anyone know any details?

Not certain but sounds like this one

https://twitter.com/CorkCraneCount/status/1348045693072637957

blindsider

opus wrote: »

There are plans for lots of stuff in that spot, a new building for the Tyndall Institute plus whatever the Mercy are planning to build. Also for a new footbridge to give a more direct route across.

I jog along there a lot & was surprised by the amount of space once the many years it took to clear out the knotweed jungle was finished.

I was down there the other day and was surprised to see 'greenhouse' type buildings in at the back of the 'jungle' and west of the old warehouses etc. They seemed to be quite substantial and had lights on...

If you paste 51.89919449833007, -8.489353273795711 into Google Maps, I think it's on the spot.

Any ideas? (Google says UCC Music, but those markers are often inaccurate)

calnand

blindsider wrote: »

I was down there the other day and was surprised to see 'greenhouse' type buildings in at the back of the 'jungle' and west of the old warehouses etc. They seemed to be quite substantial and had lights on...

If you paste 51.89919449833007, -8.489353273795711 into Google Maps, I think it's on the spot.

Any ideas? (Google says UCC Music, but those markers are often inaccurate)

That's for the UCC BEES (biological, earth & environmental sciences) department

TheChizler

blindsider wrote: »

I was down there the other day and was surprised to see 'greenhouse' type buildings in at the back of the 'jungle' and west of the old warehouses etc. They seemed to be quite substantial and had lights on...

If you paste 51.89919449833007, -8.489353273795711 into Google Maps, I think it's on the spot.

Any ideas? (Google says UCC Music, but those markers are often inaccurate)

UCC Bioresources unit have some greenhouses down there I think. Music is up the hillside at St. Vincent's.

fonecrusher1

snotboogie wrote: »

Great to hear but Terry Shannon has some neck.

Why? May I ask.

Pleading complete ignorance on this one.

opus

TheChizler wrote: »

I was in Tyndall a year or two ago and someone was telling me the plan was for a tunnel under the river. Absolute notions.

Silly idea, clearly a sky bridge is the way to go

calnand wrote: »

That's for the UCC BEES (biological, earth & environmental sciences) department

As regarding the green houses, what they said ^^^^

You can take a walk in there easily enough if you haven't been to see the layout.

hans aus dtschl

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Why? May I ask.

Pleading complete ignorance on this one.

He fights against most cycle and pedestrian schemes: more so than any other councilor I've seen. He's consistently against such schemes.

I believe of this particular scheme he last said something to the tune of "I'm on the fence and if we don't get a majority of submissions in favour of it, I won't vote in favour it".

He's now telling the media that he's strongly in favour of such schemes and trying to present himself as a driving force behind them, rather than one of the most vociferous people against them.
He's simultaneously campaigning in the media against the bollard protection of existing cycle lanes btw.

I can accept a councilor being against pedestrian or cycle schemes, but this one has been exceptional / outstanding in his opposition.

He has said that he considers people campaigning for such schemes to be "extermists".

I'm not sure if this is painting quite enough of a picture for you...

Mefistofelino

hans aus dtschl wrote: »

He fights against most cycle and pedestrian schemes: more so than any other councilor I've seen. He's consistently against such schemes.

I believe of this particular scheme he last said something to the tune of "I'm on the fence and if we don't get a majority of submissions in favour of it, I won't vote in favour it".

He's now telling the media that he's strongly in favour of such schemes and trying to present himself as a driving force behind them, rather than one of the most vociferous people against them.
He's simultaneously campaigning in the media against the bollard protection of existing cycle lanes btw.

I can accept a councilor being against pedestrian or cycle schemes, but this one has been exceptional / outstanding in his opposition.

He has said that he considers people campaigning for such schemes to be "extermists".

I'm not sure if this is painting quite enough of a picture for you...

You forgot "whingers".

Between making u-turns and jumping on bandwagons, I'd imagine he is a very fit man.

hans aus dtschl

Mefistofelino wrote: »

You forgot "whingers".

Between making u-turns and jumping on bandwagons, I'd imagine he is a very fit man.

You're right. He has a long history.

And of course, pardon my typo: he called them "extremists" (and whingers).
He insulted them with correct spelling, rather than my crappy attempt.

fonecrusher1

Crikey ok. Sounds like a complete tool so.

Ok thanks for the heads up.