eagle eye wrote: » I'm sure that's what Dana White wants. I don't think it's what fans want. McGregor is the biggest name in the history of MMA. That doesn't mean he's the best or even close just simply that he transcended the sport and people love watching him fight whether they love or hate him.
Physicskid9 wrote: » You think he's not a top fighter?
Macdarack wrote: » He's out of his league bud. Where was the show he was putting on while feeling the best he's ever been, his fight IQ? He's a spent force from 145 short arses.
Physicskid9 wrote: » Stop talking boll**. I love this narrative of fighting smaller guys at 145, as if he was the only fella who knew how to cut weight.
Physicskid9 wrote: » I honestly don't think he's such a draw now tbh.
yourdeadwright wrote: » Dustin is a massive light weight its reported he weighed more on fight night v Hooker (183lbs) than Masvidal & Usman did in the cage for there welter weight title fight (182) ,
rob316 wrote: » I still think his cardio is a major problem, talk about his leg, but he was blowing hard at the end of first round...
froog wrote: » i mean they don't have MMA coaches really. kavanagh is BJJ, roddy is a striking coach and i'm sure he's a good guy but is he really a top level MMA striking coach? they have a wrestler fella. where are the high level all round MMA coaches in that camp?
Dick phelan wrote: » He had a good run especially at FW but since his move to LW he's been quite average, last night he seemed gassed after a round had no game plan beyond trying to land the left hand.
Mellor wrote: » Fighters weights in the media should be taken with a pinch of salt. But Dustin is a huge 155er, but would be surprised if he was bigger than Masvidal or Usman. Diaz was 180 at WW verses Pettis FWIW. I don;t think there was anything unusual about he fatigue at the end on rd 1. I think people are seeing what thy expect to see. Dustin was blowing just as much. Who do you consider to be top MMA coaches? Most top coaches, of the first/second generation could probably be categorise as more bias to one discipline. With the exception of the new generation of retired fighters who where exclusively mma Average? Losing to the no.1 guy in the division is hardly the definition of average. The fact that you (and all the others) are randomly posting here proves he is a draw.
Physicskid9 wrote: » I disagree with him being as big a draw as he was though after this loss.
princemuzzy wrote: » really hope this isnt the case BJ Penn has openly used Fighting as a way to keep him on the straight and narrow and look at him taking losses, woeful damage and still going off the deep end in his personal life. Hopefully he can find something else to fulfill him, genuinely think he would be the best coach in ireland if he wanted. His fight iq is high just a pity you cant coach yourself
yourdeadwright wrote: » There is loads of picture of Masvidal and Dustin together (they are team mates and Dustin looks thicker, ) Didn't Masvidal fight at lightweight for a while himself I could be wrong ,
Mellor wrote: » Yup. Back in around 2015. When Dustin was a FW.
Physicskid9 wrote: » A lightweight couldn't be bigger than a welterweight
yourdeadwright wrote: » Why not ? of course they could be a naturally bigger man and just cut more weight, Look at Rumble when he fought at WW he was a bigger man than a whole host of MW's Gunni Nelson has also fought at WW because doesn't like to cut weight I'm sure plenty of lightweight are naturally bigger than him , Masvidal is 36 Dustin is 31 maybe Dustin feels more comfortable cutting weight than Masvidal does, Look at Conor himself when he was feather weight champion Frankie Edgar was a light weight, In no world is Frankie a bigger man than Conor ,
walshb wrote: » Good points All these lads are similar in size around the same height range and body build.... It's never an exact science when all is considered, including their abilities and desires and desperation to make weights.... Walk around weight seems to get bandied about a lot as some sort of proof as to why one man is naturally bigger than another But, even athletes can walk around out of shape, fat, carrying excess lbs..... Take three lads.... Dustin/Conor and Khabib.... They are all very similarly sized and built.... They belong 155-165 type fighter range..... Khabib does cut a lot, but Conor and Dustin need to as well... I suppose, in a nutshell, juts because one man fights in a heavier weight class than other does not always mean he is naturally bigger Khabib and Masvidal, for example: Nobody is telling me that Masvidal is naturally bigger.....both are very close/similar And there is the questin of what exacly does bigger mean? Is it purely how much a person weighs? There can be a lot more to it than that....many other measurement types
yourdeadwright wrote: » People call him the GOAT and put him on top of the pound for pound yet the weight advantage he is something he is not willing to give up ,
barryribs wrote: » What weight advantage?
yourdeadwright wrote: » Id argue Conor is the smallest man out of the 3, I think Khabib and Dustin are much thicker men than Conor, khabib has had a lot of difficulty making 155 something Conor never had It makes a huge difference in terms of taking shots and the pressure you can impose on someone , Conor can not just blow people away with the left hand at 155 like he could at 145 , bigger men can make him use more energy and don't let him fight at range, Same reason Khabib won't go near welter weight cause he will be undersized to use his style , He must be the only current champion hasn't wanted to go up for a title shot, People call him the GOAT and put him on top of the pound for pound yet the weight advantage he is something he is not willing to give up , Could you imagine the stick Conor would have got if he stayed at feather weight ,
ginoginelli wrote: » Daniel Cormier nailed it in a pre interview. Paraphrasing here. "Conor is a little guy who built himself up. Dustin's a big guy cutting down"
walshb wrote: » Fight night in the ring/cage weight advantage Or, it may be a disadvantage... There seems to be this theory that the heavier fighter in the ring has an advantage.. That is not necessarily true.....a weight gain between weigh-in and fight time should be a very thought out and deliberate process... The extra weight gained could make one man that bit slower, more cumbersome, not as nifty on his feet....that's just one take... There is also the area of how the body reacts to gaining a large amount of weight in such a short time....it can have negative effects on performance, mood, feeling, energy etc.. Take a man who makes 155 lbs, and 30 hrs later is 178 lbs, which I am sure has happened....Dustin reportedly gained 28 lbs I mean break that down...how can it be justified and explained, other than gorging? Let's say he ingested 5-6 liters of water in the 30 hrs which would a fair lot, that is 11-13 lbs.... And ingest 5-6 lbs of food, which would be a decent amount food in 30 hours.....now, subtract 2-3-4 lbs for sleep and walking around weight loss.... In 30 hours we could shed 3-4 lbs easily Net weight gain is around 15 lbs.....that is still a good lot......
barryribs wrote: » I'm not sure of the point exactly, couldn't Conor do the exact same thing? The rules are the same for everyone, hit the weight on the thursday or friday and you can weigh whatever you like in there.
AlmightyCushion wrote: » You are under estimating the water weight they cut. Most of the weight cut would be water. If they are putting on 30lbs between weigh ins and the fight then most of that weight will be water.
Tazzimus wrote: » Think he's more getting at the possible discrepancy between fight night weights. Not everyone puts on the same amount after a weight cut. Still, I wouldn't imagine the difference was huge, probably a few lbs at most. Poirier has a thicker/stockier torso compared to McGregor, so probably looked a lot bigger because of it.
