Deleted User wrote: » Its quite literally the same skillset and tradespeople used :pac:
jm08 wrote: » And thats why they reformed the Housing Executive so that it could actually secure private finance as well. (remember, some were slagging off SF for allowing this to happen)!https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/success-on-housing-in-north-could-be-sinn-f%C3%A9in-s-route-to-government-in-south-1.4400175?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fopinion%2Fsuccess-on-housing-in-north-could-be-sinn-f%25C3%25A9in-s-route-to-government-in-south-1.4400175https://www.irishnews.com/business/2020/12/29/news/building-on-the-success-of-social-housing-2169557/
blanch152 wrote: » That tells us how much you know about both. Unless there are social tenants regularly knocking down walls, there are not many bricklayers employed by councils in maintenance.
blanch152 wrote: » Hang on a minute, the North is six times worse than the South in terms of homelessness, and you are saying it has better housing policies, am I reading this right?
FrancieBrady wrote: » You are chastising somebdy and YOU think the only person involved in a build is a brickie?
Deleted User wrote: » if the south was to use the same criteria as the north,our homeless figures would be circa 100K Destroyed by facts and logic:D
blanch152 wrote: » No, I don't, I was giving ONE example of the type of trade that isn't involved in maintenance in councils. I will give you one more - crane operators needed to build apartment blocks. Maybe you think the councils have a few lads hanging around the back for a smoke who could do the job.
blanch152 wrote: » Facts? Please provide a link to an official report that agrees with you.
False. While the official figures are that just under 20,000 households presented as homeless in Northern Ireland in 2018, only 12,512 met the legal requirements of homelessness and were accepted as “full duty applicants”. It is simply not possible to compare the two systems - or sets of figures - because of the significant differences in approach, methodology and criteria.
Deleted User wrote: » i literally know blocklayers,carpenters,plumbers in the council Replacing fireplaces,retrofitting for wheelchairs,widening/narrowing windows etc etc....your blowing smoke mate
CrazyFather1 wrote: » Current Ireland number are just over 8,000https://www.focusireland.ie/resource-hub/latest-figures-homelessness-ireland/ Current NI numbers are over 4,000(this is just monthly)https://www.communities-ni.gov.uk/system/files/publications/communities/ni-housing-bulletin-jul-sep20.pdf Make of the numbers you want. But population in Northern Ireland is 1.8m and Rep of Ireland is 4.7m. Neither government should be holding themselves up as a shining light do you not think? Edit* Sorry wrong doc, The last report from NI had them at 7900 homelesshttps://www.communities-ni.gov.uk/system/files/publications/communities/ni-homelessness-bulletin-jan-jun-2020.pdf
tikkahunter wrote: » So do i , my mates actually and if their boss asked them to build a house they would tell him to **** off it is not their job . They are there to do a bit of patching up and minor work thats about it . They would have to employ bricklayers on specific contracts to build houses . Then they open a can of worms with unions.
Deleted User wrote: » Further proof its time to wind down stormont and reunify our island
Brendan Bendar wrote: » This is the rubbish that we have to put up with. “Time to wind down Stormont and reunify our island” Just like that.... just horse it out , ignore the folk who don’t want it, the economic difficulties, the probable violence, the cost to our country. Nooo problem... ignore all the side issues .... shure we will just do it. Where do these people come from.......
FrancieBrady wrote: » Nobody bothered too much about those who didn't want partition, then or now, on both sides of the border.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » That’s why foolish comments like that are........ well ...... foolish.
FrancieBrady wrote: » How come? Partition is still causing huge issues.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » “Huge issues”....... What huge issues?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Start by asking the British, Boris, Theresa May, then go see Micheal Barnier and EU negotiators, then take a walk along the border, and finish having a chat with hauliers, farmers and businesses on both sides of the border. I'm sure you know the headaches it caused Simon and Helen, so no need to chat to them. When you are done with that we'll go through the island health issues and round off with a history of the issues it caused. Bring sandwiches and a change of clothes.
Deleted User wrote: » arent crane companies hired in at x per day?.....bit like claiming council dont have cement lorries there,and showing a bizzare lack of undersranding of the construction industry Have the counils civil engineers,q surveyors working for them anyway already?
Brendan Bendar wrote: » So... would we need input from the ‘ good Republicans’. Could we get a ‘send off’ with a 10 litre of ‘washed’’. Get us down to Castlebellingham so it would , hi. And a note saying , Don’t come back here, we’re doin’ just fine.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Still think partition hasn't caused huge issues? That post shows it has caused you huge issues, you hardly mention anything else on here.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Mea culpa Francie, mea culpa.... Lookit , over Forty Thousand posts,I realise it’s your life.... I’ll back out of this particular engagement. You certainly know more than I do on this. Stay safe, a chara.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Par for the course with you Brendi. Scratch the surface and there is no substance to your position, Just defend and insult.
jm08 wrote: » Whats the issue in employing people on contract for to build houses. Is that not what developers do? What can of worms with the unions?
blanch152 wrote: » Employing people on contract is subject to restrictions under the national pay agreements with the unions. It wouldn’t be possible in this case.
jm08 wrote: » What kind of restrictions?
tikkahunter wrote: » Have you ever worked in a job that has a union ? like lets just say Billy bricklayer that has worked for the corpo for years now has been happy tipping along patching up wrecked houses , building the odd little wall here and there for 40 k a year .Now they bring in Johnny the bricklayer who is going to start building houses but no way he will work for 40 k a year he wants 70k .So if the corpo give Johnny 70k (which they wont because of pay scales but lets just pretend here)then Billy will want parity but will not build houses as its not in his job description and he hasn't done that since he started in the corpo . So now what do the corpo do ? Bring in Johnny on 40 k and tell him to build a house? Because that is when the union will step in and say sorry Johnny can come in on 40 k but his job description will be the same as billys and billy does not build houses. Does Eoin not know this - like he wrote a book dont you know. You can find it in the fiction section in Easons , Its like Louise O Reilly talking about health and Pharma companies , both know very little about either but will just shout out what everyone wants to hear without actually knowing if it will work.
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