Alkers wrote: » Can you outline the works in a bit more detail? You could probably bring a house to b with all new windows and doors, attic insulation, new condensing gas boiler, smart heating controls, insulate all external walls. Doable 50k I'd say for most homes -there must be something more significant than just the new rating in your plans. Extension will be ballpark 2500/m2 in Dublin.
BryanF wrote: » I have to disagree with the 50k for doing up 117m2 Victorian house. Suggest it could easily be Triple/quadruple that..
Padoreilly wrote: » To give a bit more detail on project (I wish it could be done for €50k!!) 1. Full gutting of house 2. Rewiring 3. Pluming - UFH downstairs, rads upstairs with Heat Pump 4. New windows. Original 330k included wooden sash windows at front but paired that back to aluminium triple glazed 5. New kitchen, bathroom etc 6. Extension at rear at 9sqm 7. Expect roof to need to be re slated with necessary insulation I suppose I had in my head that we could get it all done for 200k and we will pair things back but it is our long term home so want to get it right. Will be interesting to see what quotes we get when we actually go to tender
jonnybravo wrote: » We did something similar in Dublin (130 sq metre house build in the 70s) and it cost us €150k. Probably wasn't all of what you have below but had the below. We had an engineer do our drawings and didn't get a QS or Architect involved. Rewiring Repluming including UFH downstairs and rads upstairs (Gas Boiler) External Insulation plus 150mm insulation under the UFH downstairs (replaced suspended floors) Extension of 10sq metres (included lots of internal structural steel inbedded into roof to join two rooms together) Painting New kitchen & one wardrobe Three new bathrooms New internal doors We didn't have new windors or doors or changing the roof, which I'd say is expensive. We got a builder to do most of it but did stuff like Kitchen, external insulation and buying the fixtures & fittings ourselves.
Padoreilly wrote: » Cheers for that and food for thought on the architect side of things. Out of interest how are you finding UFH with gas boiler?
society wrote: » Is now a bad time to get renovations done ? Would it be better to wait 12mmths when demand for works increases and costs of materials/labour go down ....or is that too simplistic
Gumbo wrote: » Lots of people said that 12 months ago. Yet here we are, still in a worldwide pandemic and materials are still rising and labour is harder to get. You won’t get it done cheaper in 12 months time in my opinion. I’m struggling to get builders for the smaller jobs.
Padoreilly wrote: » I agree....I actually think prices will go up due to a combination of Covid and Brexit.
Tefral wrote: » I was a QS over a job exactly like this recently. Costs were similar to what the OP Described.
Did you get a reasonable quote in the end …looking at doing similar work but wondering are costs still crazy !
Dont get fooled by builders - here is the SCSI from September 2022 when prices of raw materials were higher than they are now.
https://scsi.ie/consumer/build/calculator/
That’s of zero use if you can’t get a builder to do the work at those prices.
Builders charge what they can get, not what some website says they should be charging.
Well with over 40k more workers working in construction game in 2022 thats a 31.4% increase of workers from the start of the year things are opening up I can see that from my own personal experience and raw material prices are down also with the PMIs and outputs in construction both showing a different story from what your painting the tide has changed a lot of would be customers in the market for an extension have been priced out of it by interest rates, gouging by builders and from the cost of living crisis.
So anyone looking to get a job done don't just accept the first quote the SCSI site I quoted is one of the industry standards and should be looked at and not what a builder tells you as he walks into your house with his spurs and Stetson giving the usual "ahh the war in Ukraine blah the cost of raw materials blah blah" Its squeaky bum time for a lot of construction companies already there are a real ramp up in liquidations in the SME sector and the construction game is not immune. This time last year I could only get one construction company out to quote , this year 6 and the lowest quote is 15% lower than last years quote. Any quote anyone out there is getting compare to SCSI and tell the builder that you wont be going ahead until they lower the price and make sure to have at least 3+ quotes and if you are still not happy wait it out. Nothing like another 3 interest rate hikes coming before July to drain another high % of would be extension customers from this market. Builders will either have to compete or hit the wall.
CSO figures for construction workers increase
Construction PMIs and construction outputs are both down
Please could you pm me the name of your builder. thanks
How did you get on?
