Coillte_Bhoy wrote: » These county grounds with 20/25k capacity are not in place, without researching, id say about 8 counties have them.
threeball wrote: » Yes that was the crux of my argument. I'm of the same belief as you, one central 40-45k stadium to Croke park specs and standards in each province and I think counties should really not be looking to develop anything over 10-15k as they're a waste of money. Small stadia to a high standard suitable for club and county is far preferable to empty monoliths which give atmosphere to nothing.
BloodyBill wrote: » That ship has sailed. And each province has its own particular traditions . Munster is completely different than Connacht and with the round Robin in hurling is capable of having 4 or 5 30,000 plus crowds a season topped off with a 45,000 final. Connact can't do that and neither can any other province. Plus having one large stadium is tricky giving tbe size of the province. Its bigger than Wales.
roadmaster wrote: » I see casement is in the news again the assembly have green lighted 20 million to it but it is well short of the required funds and ulster gaa have said they won't be giving any more funds to it. Will Antrim have a ground 10 years at this rate?
Pogue eile wrote: » Maybe do some research so! I count 16, and it wouldn't take a lot to bring some of the others up to that level.
kksaints wrote: » Estimated cost now of £110 million which is around €125 million. Ouch.
Coillte_Bhoy wrote: » Dublin, Cork, Kerry, Limerick, Tipp, Galway, Mayo, Monaghan, Kilkenny, maybe Offaly and Laois at a push, dont see where you are getting 16 tbh
yabadabado wrote: » I'm fairly sure Cavan,Carlow,Derry,Down and Fermanagh are 20k + .
kksaints wrote: » Cullen Park is nowhere near 20k plus, don't think it's even 10k under the revised capacity from a few years ago.
yabadabado wrote: » It was reduced to 10/11k about 5 years ago but I thought it was back up now to 20k. Was at a game there in 2019 and the stand/terrace looked in decent shape. Edit: Taking out Carlow ,there would still be 14/15 at 20k. Roscommon is currently at 18k but will be increased once the work on the ground is completed. These aren't major developments (circa 2m)so I expect it to start this year.
yabadabado wrote: » According to the reports its €71m they are spending on CP but its for conference,hospitality and the museum.
celt262 wrote: » That is nice of them and on the other hand they don't think they can run the National leagues as the money isn't there.
beggars_bush wrote: » Problem is, if you don't keep a stadium upgraded it gets old very quick They make more off a few concerts than gate receipts
celt262 wrote: » Yeah that's all well and good but they got millions in funding from the government last year to run the championships are mumbling that they may not be able to afford to run the leagues this year and have pulled 70 odd million from the back of the couch to upgrade Croke Park.
roadmaster wrote: » I seen during the week louth are pushing on with the new dundalk stadium. I know the county board have said they will not entertain the notion of a groundshare with Dundalk but in this day and age in Ireland any new stadiums we build should be municipal stadiums for several sports to use. If louth had more partners such as soccer and rugby they would not have to put as much funding in place and could better spend funds on underage team coach's and there senior county teams
yabadabado wrote: » Also I think it's a a bad idea sharing a pitch with rugby. Remember a few teams in UK shared with rugby and the pitch would be in awful condition. It's very hard do a stadium justice when one game needs a much larger pitch than the other.soccer was odd looking on the Croker pitch. If building from scratch maybe a compromise could work ,the width of the pitch could be the same for GAA/Soccer but the length would have to be at least 10m longer for GAA .
threeball wrote: » Minimum 35m longer and 10m wider so hard to see any compromise that works.
yabadabado wrote: » I thought it was min 10m longer but width could be the same? Gaa pitch can be min 130m long, soccer max of 120m . Soccer pitch max width 90m ,GAA pitch can be between 80m to 90m wide?
roadmaster wrote: » i just think we need to be sharing more facilities considering the size of the country , Dundalk them selves floated the idea of using the new county grounds. A tight pitch might be the only advantage a team like louth would have against Dublin
Pete_Cavan wrote: » I'd be very surprised if Dundalk would seriously consider leaving their decent setup (which includes indoor pitches and an underground carpark) in order to share a pitch that has their fans further away and they'd have to schedule around GAA as both sports play over the summer. It is unlikely the Louth senior team will ever play Dublin in a Championship game here so that ins't really a concern. Even if it was, they could bring in the sidelines on a larger pitch like Tyrone did (unbeknownst to Mickey!). Louth will build a 145m x 90m main pitch.
