Gentlemanne wrote: » Can't remember who but there was a poster who was convinced Muslims hate dogs. Here's congresswoman Ilhan Omar beaming over her new pethttps://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1351276519851765765?s=19 There's good evidence that Trump hates animals, even criticising Pence for having pets. The only president for decades not to have a dog, because the real hatred of dogs is coming this narcissist who is on his way out
Gentlemanne wrote: » Can't remember who but there was a poster who was convinced Muslims hate dogs.
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » I am not proud of my skin color. I had no say in what color I was born I have said on here before things like black and proud, gay pride etc is the biggest load of brainwashed horsesh1t you will find. If I build a wall I will take pride in what I created, if I dug the garden, I will take pride in my work. Pride should be reserved for something you attained, not were given unconditionally and without any say. Why would anyone take pride in something they had absolutely no control of ? Why gay pride,another ridiculous concept, those people did not chose to be gay. I am not proud to be Irish either , because it was not my decision, it was out of my hands. Thats like being proud of having blue eyes or a nose. I am referring to wanting my "tribe" , my identity group, my culture, my way of life, not being eroded. And for the record, I have said countless times on here, I am in a mixed race marriage so dont even try to make this a racial issue.
John Doe1 wrote: » The people who I really feel for in this country are those educated, secular Africans/Middle Easterners who came here to contribute to Irish society and integrate knowing that Ireland was the place where they could acheive prosperity and happiness rather that the more backwards/corrupt place they came from. They must be absolutely moritifed at some of the people from their homelands who are simply a drain of resources and creators of societal division. I hope for their sake that we stop bending to suit the needs of the bad actor newcomers but i have a bad feeling....
Scoondal wrote: » My wife came here. She isn't "dropping illegitimate kids". She is a helth care professional taking care of your mother because you can't be arssed yourself. Why can't you take care of your mother ?
Strumms wrote: » Once the horse is bolted, the only way is to bolt the door shut... that means leaving the EU... that’s 15-20 years away, earliest... when the damage to our economy, lifestyles and safety is done, it’s too late... it will take generations to right.
fantaiscool wrote: » Yeah we shouldn't have ever joined the EU. They gave us 40 billion euro we never needed.
Gatling wrote: » Where if we weren't in the EU we could have been self reliant and would have being able to get out of a hole like others countries by devaluation of currency and other measures like the other states who said no to the eu and the euro go figure , And we wouldn't be forced to agree to migrant intakes either
Tell me how wrote: » Jesus Christ open a history book or read some newspapers from the 70's, 80's or talk to your parents to see how nonsensical this idea of being self-reliant or 'being able to get out of a hole' was really like.
Gatling wrote: » I lived through it , mad idea imagine people got through it and managed to eventually get on the property ladder and full time and permanent jobs and so did there kids
Scoondal wrote: » Okay, we agree.
Strumms wrote: » We joined the EEC in around 1973 I think... 48 years is a long time. If now the benefits are outweighed by the negatives...and the situation is not expected to get better.... it could be the lesser of too evils... we will loose a lot by leaving, but we might or probably will be in the deeper shît by staying.
Invidious wrote: » Is legal migration from other EU nations such a huge problem? Most Eastern European immigrants don't seem invested in foisting their own culture on us. The pregnancy loophole of the 90s and bogus asylum seeking, bringing waves of immigrants from non-EU countries, have created far bigger problems.
fantaiscool wrote: » Even if I grant you that premise (I don't), It wouldn't change my mind. Something "going against human nature" isn't anywhere near enough of a justification to disagree with it. Many things go against human nature. I'm not religious but take christianity as an example. The teachings of christianity are in direct opposition to "human nature". "love your enemy, turn the other cheek, everone is equal under god" etc. When I find someones phone on the street and go out of my way to make sure they get it back, I'm going against "human nature" and my "selfish genes".
I would rather live in a world where we strive to have values that go beyond biology. Using your view of "human nature" to revolt against multiculturalism doesn't hold up.
Wibbs wrote: » Would Ireland leaving the EU cause a fall off in immigration? Yes it would and not because of the lack of any EU immigration policy, but because our economy would contract in a big way and emigration not immigration would go up.
Invidious wrote: » After the 2008 crash, many immigrants left again, and numbers of asylum seekers dropped dramatically.
CruelCoin wrote: » Which raises the question why we aren't calling a spade a spade and recognising them for the economic migrants they are?
Invidious wrote: » Because SJWs will never accept that ethnic minorities are capable of behavior that is dishonest, fraudulent, or illegal, such as applying for asylum under false pretenses ... even though it's clearly been going on for years.
Wibbs wrote: » Actually you're not, or at least you're focussing too much on the notion of the selfish gene in an individual and simplistic sense. Humans are social animals and what we define as altruism is built into that. We can certainly focus more on our own genetic relatives over the group, but group survival is very important, because without the group we're far more vulnerable, so altruism and group cooperation runs very strongly in us as a species. We see this in other social animal species. It's why we get the old dopamine hit from such acts. Altruism is evolutionarily advantageous.
Wibbs wrote: » Christianity doesn't go against human nature as you claim. It sprang from human nature in the first place. Now our big brains intellectualise and codify and often exaggerate human traits but they're still inherent. As human groups got larger and larger we had to adapt new strategies to cope with that, so organised religions, laws, government etc.
Marcos wrote: » This is the point that Richard Dawkins missed when he wrote the selfish gene.
But like anything, you can have too much of it. The Chinese have a word for (white) western SJWs who promote the likes of multiculturalism merely to boost their own sense of moral righteousness. It's Baizuo or White Left. Klaz would probably be able to tell you more about this.
As for organised religion and altruism, look at Buddhism, a religion which puts altruism at the heart of it's beliefs, moreso than other religions IMO. But even they recognise that there are limits. In 2018, at a conference in Malmo, the Dalai Lama said that refugees should go home and rebuild their own countries and leave Europe for Europeans. Europe should help and educate them of course, but with the proviso that they go back to their own countries.
