Deleted User wrote: » based on what we've been told, there is no rule breaking going on (assuming they are all staying in the one house)
Tenzor07 wrote: » The "No household mixing" rule?
Deleted User wrote: » They are coming from overseas and forming a household during their time in Ireland as far as I can see. No different to a couple of students coming home from university overseas to live with their parents
Tenzor07 wrote: » Guess the OP has nothing to be concerned about so...
Tenzor07 wrote: » Why not call over to the house in question, inform them that you know there's Covid rule breaking going on regarding household mixing etc., and advise them that you will raise this issue with the residents association, house owner and Gardai also? You'll get nowhere by not tackling the issue directly.
UK and Brazil passengers allowed in to Ireland without Covid test results
About 80 people have been allowed to enter the country after arriving on flights from South Africa and Britain without test results to show they were free of Covid-19. This is in contravention of emergency regulations introduced by the government on January 9, to prevent the spread of new variants of the virus. New mutations of Covid-19 which originated in Britain and South Africa have spread rapidly across Europe as they are more infectious than the original strain. The variant first found in the UK accounts for about half of all Irish cases.
ShineOn7 wrote: » Jaw dropping negligence We are witnessing one of the worst Irish governments of all timehttps://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-and-brazil-passengers-allowed-in-to-ireland-without-covid-test-results-jvcszjv9n
Danno wrote: » And if anyone complains, they're "racist". This, and the unfettered greed for cheap labour is why us numpties must shut our beaks.
jay0109 wrote: » The Last Word just said 15,000 Brazilians have entered Ireland in the past 2 weeks on a piece they did on restrictions at the airport. Did I hear that number right? It cant be right
darem93 wrote: » 1,500 I think it was, but it's still absolutely mental either way that they were able to come in with no checks or controls whatsoever. What is the point in having lockdowns and restricting movements to 5km locally if you're just going to let everyone travel in from abroad willy-nilly? It's like trying to empty a bathtub with a bucket while leaving the tap still running.
jay0109 wrote: » 1,500 sounds more plausible. It was the piece with Pete Lund but it's not up online yet. But yes, its mental they can just stroll in with no restrictions re covid. Also explains in part why rents aren't falling with that level of immigration
Danno wrote: » Oisin Smith TD calling out Roisin Shortall on Tonight Show TV3 playing a dangerous game by suggesting extra checks on incoming passengers from Brazil. This is what we pay them a six-figure sum per annum for. We're fcuked.
jay0109 wrote: » She had to pull him up up 4 or 5 times on his insinuations that she was playing a race card. Anyways there'll be no mandatory 14day isolation at the airports while the Greens are in power. That was clear from Smyth tonight, open borders are too important to them.
Danno wrote: » https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40209449.html €10m for UL and a handy way round the restrictions.
When contacted, a UL spokesman said
The lack of mandatory quarantine for people arriving in Ireland is a 'hole in the roof' of Ireland's coronavirus strategy, Dr Gabriel Scally says. He said the country is busy 'mopping up after a disastrous set of relaxations' before Christmas, but the virus can still arrive into the country through ports and airports. Currently, anyone arriving here must have evidence of a negative COVID-19 PCR test 72 hours before arrival. People are then advised to restrict their movements, while those arriving from Britain, South Africa or South America are advised to self isolate for a full 14 days. However, many experts have called for the likes of hotels to be used for mandatory quarantine instead - as has been done in the likes of New Zealand - instead of the current approach. Public health expert Dr Scally told Moncrieff the current travel rules in the Republic and Northern Ireland are simply too lax. He said: “We know the virus came from Britain and Ireland from abroad, and we know it has continued to come. “We know that there isn’t really any barrier to that spread. “Particularly now when we know there are dangerous variants cropping up across the world, having open borders to the virus is really, really bad news." He said the new variants - such as one originally detected in Brazil - seem to be more transmissible, and in a worst-case scenario may even be able to 'dodge the vaccines'. He suggested the only way to deal with the virus is to 'keep it at arm's length', and that means strict controls at ports and airports.
ShineOn7 wrote: » The UK variant = 40% more infectious than the original? The Brazilian variant = even more infectious than the UK one 1500 Brazilians arrived back to Ireland in the last 2 weeks with no quarantine or proper checks I don't think we've seen the affects of these returning Brazilians yet. If any of them have the new variant and spread it in the community then we are utterly, utterly fcucked We are witnessing willful ignorance by our "government" that can now be only called manslaughter From Newstalk earlier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pXvEqc_G1o Is Dr Gabriel Scally known to be a solid source? I haven't heard of him till now
faceman wrote: » Scally is a doomer and gloomier This whole mandatory quarantine facility isn’t going to happen nor should it. We don’t even put confirmed cases in quarantine The government should be just enforcing the basics. Mandatory testing in advance and mandatory isolation at home
Datacore wrote: » Who actually drives policies here? Airlines?! Seems we just keep taking extremely lax approaches to border bio security. The rules need to apply to everyone entering from high risk locations, regardless of nationality, including our own citizens. It’s nothing to do with nationality. It’s just about viruses. Quarantine safely and then enter without any risk. Surely providing safe facilities would be much, much cheaper than chasing down outbreaks in the community. It doesn’t need to close the borders, just for the duration of this keep the virus out while doing our best to facilitate travel where needed.
JP Liz V1 wrote: » The Brazilian strain variant is worse than the UK or Chinese variant, spreads faster more lethal apparently, we on lockdown but not coming from another country with high cases and deaths