Wibbs wrote: » Let's have less of the painting of an entire gender please. Especially from a tiktok video as "evidence". If you saw the same thing with the genders reversed and someone said it shows "how quickly men... etc" I'm quite sure we'd object to that. Rightfully. Thanks.
...Ghost... wrote: » Do you? Stranger things have happened.https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-court-farting-during-police-20131779https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53072756https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/man-jailed-after-farting-cops-4332794https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/banter/german-police-tried-to-fine-a-man-900-for-farting-at-them-twice-36236613.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3FllMeIyGA
py2006 wrote: » This clearly wasn't true but it just goes to show you how quickly women can make a very serious and very dangerous accusation about a man in order to get out of a situation.
jimwallace197 wrote: » https://www.independent.ie/news/the-dpp-ruined-my-life-entertainer-sil-fox-sues-prosecutor-after-sex-assault-acquittal-40106553.html Absolutely ridicilous its not possible to sue the DPP or the Gards for defamation as the DPP is entitled to absolute privilege in the course of a prosecution and a complaint of malicious prosecution would be unsustainable unless there is evidence of malice which I'm sure they can cover up easily. How many more times will this happen unless the system is changed. The DPP and the gards need to be held accountable when they attempt to ruin a mans life like this. I hope he wins his case anyhow and at least this case is putting the office of the DPP under scrutiny.
py2006 wrote: » I was watching a video on TikTok (yea I know :rolleyes: ), and assuming its real, it was a guy catching has girl out cheating on him. She thought she was getting a surprise or present or something but all along there was images of her cheating and images of her texts with the guy on the wall behind her without her knowing. Apparently, the guy who was with the girl found out she already had a bf and contacted him so they decided to catch her out on video. He was hiding behind her too. Anyway, aside from her mortification and embarrassment she played the victim card and one of the first things she said without hesitation, "he forced himself on me". This clearly wasn't true but it just goes to show you how quickly women can make a very serious and very dangerous accusation about a man in order to get out of a situation.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Do you live in the same world as the rest of us?
...Ghost... wrote: » Here's an interesting one I came across from the north when looking for false allegations against taxi drivers.https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/wheelchair-bound-irish-woman-who-12846892 This woman made two false allegations of rape a few years apart. Both times, she was given suspended sentences with no jail time. She has a history of making other false claims to police, but they still arrested her latest victim and turned his life upside down.If the man had so much as farted in that womans direction, he would have been jailed. Seems very unfair she keeps getting away with these crimes.
bubblypop wrote: » I most certainly do not work in any kind of womens services and you are showing your bias in your posting. speaking about people just by 'what is between their legs' and not actual people is disgusting and shows what little regard you have for any persons. FYI, I have no sympathy and I would bet even less than you, when it comes to people making any kind of false allegations. you have no respect for law or the judiciary, which is where you and I wildly differ.
bubblypop wrote: » Well, personally through work I know if 3 women who were charged with making false statements regarding rape or sexual assault, but just from googling ( I am on the phone!) The first page throws up, Regina De Oliveira, Sarah Browne, Kerry Holt, also few northern ones coming up. It's really not unusual.
JimmyVik wrote: » Do people actually believe there are no accusers who get off scott free. Charges dropped and off they go on their merry way. Come on now.
...Ghost... wrote: » I get the impression that you work in womens services in some fashion and so I find it hard to believe that you are not biased and by extension, in this context, not fair. This is reinforced when you imply that a conviction with no time served for false rape allegations is just. If you take issue to veiled references of genitals, sorry, but that's not my problem and it's far from disgusting. You say you don't support any kind of sentences. It might be bold of me to say, but that's exactly what I expected your answer to be if you were to have provided one. It shows a level of comfort with the current bias against women serving custodial sentences, or indeed receiving any punishment for wrecking lives with malicious lies. Defaulting to the position of "that's for a judge to decide and the DPP to appeal". I can't find the supporting article now, but judges are being told to avoid handing out custodial sentences to women found guilty of reporting and pursuing malicious false rape allegations. Don't get me started on the DPP. What a joke.
bubblypop wrote: » I am fair and honest and I don't care for 'what is between people's legs' pretty disgusting way of talking about people tbh. I don't support any kind of sentences, that's for a judge to decide and the DPP to appeal if the sentence is too lenient.
bubblypop wrote: » You're showing your true colours here now.
...Ghost... wrote: » You seem to have in your head that a conviction with no time served is justice done, next case please. If a suspended sentence is all that's given when a woman is found guilty of falsely accusing a man, potentially ruining his life, well excuse me when I imply the woman got off with no punishment. Would you support a suspended sentence for a convicted rapist too? If a conviction is punishment enough, then it's very little deterrent against crime. If women knew they would get jail time for making a false allegation, I can tell you that they would be rare indeed. Men get harsher sentences for identical crimes where women often get no time at all in prison. It's backwards, sexist and inherently unfair. I get the impression you are fine with that though. I really would not be surprised if women with convictions were being accepted into the force....not when the conviction was in relation to a false allegation. There is a push to get more women into certain jobs and a little suspended sentence is not going to get in the way of that, is it?
bubblypop wrote: » This is just all in your head. Who is becoming a Guard after making false allegations? No-one that's who. You can protest at much as you like that women who make false allegations are not prosecuted, but they clearly are. Now, if you have an issue with the penalty given to them, that's a judges decision.
...Ghost... wrote: » I had seriously guessed that the person the other poster was referring to became a Gard. To the best of my knowledge, if you have a conviction, you cannot become a Gard, or if so, it's very unlikely depending on the conviction. I cringe at the thought of someone becoming a Gard when they have made a false allegation of rape against someone. Is that the type of person we want serving the community?
bubblypop wrote: » What does your first paragraph refer to?
The female in my story, lost her job and was charged.
...Ghost... wrote: » Oh my. That was my only serious guess and I had hoped it was wrong. God help any man she puts into cuffs. And of course, because no convictions were recorded against her, there was no problem getting into the force. Anything come of it....either side? Bad weather ahead.
JimmyVik wrote: » You have it among those guesses.
bubblypop wrote: » I know a female in one of those professions who made a false allegation of sexual assault against a taxi driver
...Ghost... wrote: » 3 guesses: Garda RTE Presenter Mens Rights Activist You can't leave us wondering, whether we believe you or not. Spill it.
JimmyVik wrote: » I know of one who made a false allegation and it only came to light because of CCTV on a neighboring property. Nothing happened to her. In fact you would not believe what she works at now. And im not going to say because you would just think i was making it up.
...Ghost... wrote: » Sarah Browne = 1 month jail. Admitted she gave consent in follow up statement.
Sentencing was adjourned on a number of occasions to allow Ms Browne to engage with the probations services. However, she missed a number of appointments and was charged with a public order offence in Kiltimagh on March 10, 2018. A bench warrant was also issued for her arrest after she failed to appear in court on one occasion.
bubblypop wrote: » Well, they didn't get away with it, they were charged and convicted before the courts. The penalties are decided by the judge, we have all seen mad sentences for different crimes, depending on circumstances and the judge. It's a conviction that they will have to live with. I'll be honest, I don't remember exactly what happened with the 3 females at work,(it's been a while) but they were convicted also. It can be a hard charge to prove sometimes, but I can assure you that Gardai and the DPPs office do take these crimes very seriously.