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Another full lockdown looming? - mod warning in OP

mea_k

I work for non essential retail, and was due to go for mortgage in June /July it's now been pushed and pushed out again and again. With covid payments and then on the wage subsidy scheme and then back on covid payment. Im now physically feeling defeated.
With news saying all none essential retail can stay open I felt like celebrating because it ment I was step closer. But now with all the cases I'm driving myself mad. Will it go all backwards again?
I really hope I will be able to work.

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weldoninhio

Fred Cryton wrote: »

I would say the same to Vicky Phelan. Is she a medical doctor? No. So why is she wheeled out in front of the media as though she has the slightest clue about anything.

Fcuking hell!!

[Deleted User]

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

You would be hard pressed to find anyone under 60 who still believes this guff.

You're very deep into your echo chamber if this is your experience.

opinionated3

Matt Hancock on LBC radio this morning predicting Britain to be out of restrictions by spring. At least he's giving his people some hope that if they stick it out they will be rewarded with their freedoms pretty soon because of their accelerated vaccine programme.
Meanwhile we are about to remove more freedoms from our people, throw them on the PUP payment till God knows when...... All in the hope that we MIGHT be ok come August.

doublejobbing 2

Deleted User wrote: »

You're very deep into your echo chamber if this is your experience.

My experience is most men know it has been exaggerated, most women believe the same but are less vocal lest they be lumped in with the Gemma crowd.

If you take a look on Twitter 98 percent of lockdown lovers are asocial hard left unemployable wasters who are more concerned with the fat welfare payment than anything related to public health. The concept of owning even one shirt nice enough to wear on a night out is alien to them.

JeffKenna

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

My experience is most men know it has been exaggerated, most women believe the same but are less vocal lest they be lumped in with the Gemma crowd.

If you take a look on Twitter 98 percent of lockdown lovers are asocial hard left unemployable wasters who are more concerned with the fat welfare payment than anything related to public health. The concept of owning even one shirt nice enough to wear on a night out is alien to them.

Beginning to become alien to me as well, I haven't put a shirt on for a night out in over a year.

GreeBo

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

NPHET only want pubs closed. Holohan not once in months has went beyond tacit disapproval of foreign travel. He has repeatedly peddled the lie that only 2 percent of cases are from it. He has not conceded that with a ban on recreational travel we wouldn't have had a 2nd, 3rd of 4th wave. Or a 1st, at that. The man is a spoofer and then he wonders why the vast vast majority of the public no longer give a shiet what he and clowns like Harris have to say on things.

Hold Firm. Oh phuck off you pair of cretins. You would be hard pressed to find anyone under 60 who still believes this guff.

Which country's approach would you have preferred we follow?

Btw, I don't think vast majority means what you think it means...

GreeBo

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

My experience is most men know it has been exaggerated, most women believe the same but are less vocal lest they be lumped in with the Gemma crowd.

If you take a look on Twitter 98 percent of lockdown lovers are asocial hard left unemployable wasters who are more concerned with the fat welfare payment than anything related to public health. The concept of owning even one shirt nice enough to wear on a night out is alien to them.

"Know it had been exaggerated"?
Please explain.

Glebee

vafankillar wrote: »

one thing i'm confused about is why nphet want to keep schools open but so many nphet strict restriction supporters want them closed? if they trust nphet what is the root of the disagreement from nphets perspective? genuine question

Whos going to mind the children if the schools close? The parents are trying to work so it creates all sorts of problems. Also give kids a semblance of normality. Its probably the lesser of two evils keeping them open.

Stateofyou

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

My experience is most men know it has been exaggerated, most women believe the same but are less vocal lest they be lumped in with the Gemma crowd.

If you take a look on Twitter 98 percent of lockdown lovers are asocial hard left unemployable wasters who are more concerned with the fat welfare payment than anything related to public health. The concept of owning even one shirt nice enough to wear on a night out is alien to them.

Definitely echo chamber. :rolleyes:

JeffKenna

Glebee wrote: »

Whos going to mind the children if the schools close? The parents are trying to work so it creates all sorts of problems. Also give kids a semblance of normality. Its probably the lesser of two evils keeping them open.

Is the primary responsibility of parents not to mind their children?

arccosh

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

My experience is most men know it has been exaggerated, most women believe the same but are less vocal lest they be lumped in with the Gemma crowd.

If you take a look on Twitter 98 percent of lockdown lovers are asocial hard left unemployable wasters who are more concerned with the fat welfare payment than anything related to public health. The concept of owning even one shirt nice enough to wear on a night out is alien to them.

you've been fortunate to have that experience...

I have numerous relatives who work in hospitals in the UK and Ireland who tell a completely different story.... one who contracted COVID while working and is now off work struggling with long COVID, another who also had a stint in ICU due to COVID... a friend who couldn't work their patient support role in a hospital as they are high risk (30's with a lung issue), they now have no job..... lots of stories of being overwhelmed .....

count yourself lucky.... but you probably won't and just write this off as garbage

tom1ie

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

My experience is most men know it has been exaggerated, most women believe the same but are less vocal lest they be lumped in with the Gemma crowd.

If you take a look on Twitter 98 percent of lockdown lovers are asocial hard left unemployable wasters who are more concerned with the fat welfare payment than anything related to public health. The concept of owning even one shirt nice enough to wear on a night out is alien to them.

Are the pictures of ambulances queuing up outside hospitals in east London exaggerated?
You do know they are queuing as there is no room left in the hospitals.
You do know people have to be treated in the ambulances.
If people get treated in ambulances that means there’s an ambulance less for people who have heart attacks/strokes/fall down stairs etc.
So that’s covid cases having an effect on people who never got covid at all.
But yeah it’s all exaggerated isn’t it!
That’s what can easily happen here with your mentality.

faceman

boombang wrote: »

Clearly a lack of evidence from Ireland doesn't mean Irish gyms are safe.

Evidence from the EU should do instead so

https://www.her.ie/health/extremely-unlikely-catch-covid-19-gym-study-says-514301

tom1ie

JeffKenna wrote: »

Is the primary responsibility of parents not to mind their children?

Of course.
If only the employers realised this.
Oh but if the parents stop working what happens to the economy........

Red Alert

The “excess socialising” due to Christmas is gone naturally now, so they should leave the L5 with adjustments as is.

JeffKenna

tom1ie wrote: »

Of course.
If only the employers realised this.
Oh but if the parents stop working what happens to the economy........

Well at least we're getting to the route of why schools are staying open.

doublejobbing 2

arccosh wrote: »

you've been fortunate to have that experience...

I have numerous relatives who work in hospitals in the UK and Ireland who tell a completely different story.... one who contracted COVID while working and is now off work struggling with long COVID, another who also had a stint in ICU due to COVID... a friend who couldn't work their patient support role in a hospital as they are high risk (30's with a lung issue), they now have no job..... lots of stories of being overwhelmed .....

count yourself lucky.... but you probably won't and just write this off as garbage

Ah yes, Long Covid in young people.

As we all know, everybody gets over the traditional flu in 10 days and never has lingering coughs and fatigue for months on end.

It's amazing how the media are treating long lasting after effects as something new to live in fear of.

Nothing in your handful of examples differs wildly from the experience of tens of thousands of Irish people during the annual flu season.

[Deleted User]

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

My experience is most men know it has been exaggerated, most women believe the same but are less vocal lest they be lumped in with the Gemma crowd.

I don't see how being a man or woman makes anyone more or less likely to be associated with the Gemma crowd.

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

If you take a look on Twitter 98 percent of lockdown lovers are asocial hard left unemployable wasters who are more concerned with the fat welfare payment than anything related to public health. The concept of owning even one shirt nice enough to wear on a night out is alien to them.

Lockdown lovers?

Are these different to people who agree with lockdown measures to mitigate against the public health threat of hospitalisations going beyond our capacity?

Are you casting everyone that's pro lockdown measures as lockdown lovers or are you referring to "98%" of a tiny portion who don't want to work anyway?

[Deleted User]

JeffKenna wrote: »

Well at least we're getting to the route of why schools are staying open.

Is there a single person out there who thinks otherwise?

tom1ie

JeffKenna wrote: »

Well at least we're getting to the route of why schools are staying open.

To keep the economy going.
Parents can’t work if schools close. (Thinking of primary here)

doublejobbing 2

tom1ie wrote: »

Are the pictures of ambulances queuing up outside hospitals in east London exaggerated?
You do know they are queuing as there is no room left in the hospitals.

They have started closing the overflow Nightinggale hospitals in London.

Not to mention you would think that hospitals overcrowded with the sick were something new and unknown.

Holohan and Harris have lied from the start. Why should anybody believe them?

Remember Harris saying that pubs wouldn't re open until a vaccine was found. At the time projections were for 3 to 4 years for one to be found. And Harris attitude was well, what can you do, that's life. This lunatic was asking us to take it on the chin to cancel our social lives for the next 3 to 5 years.

Jinglejangle69

tom1ie wrote: »

To keep the economy going.
Parents can’t work if schools close. (Thinking of primary here)

And so kids can get an education so the country has a future to look forward to.

Education is vital.

Noone can deny that.

arccosh

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

As we all know, everybody gets over the traditional flu in 10 days and never has lingering coughs and fatigue for months on end.

I think you need to look over the symptoms of long COVID.... if you think that's all it is

Jinglejangle69

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

They have started closing the overflow Nightinggale hospitals in London.

Not to mention you would think that hospitals overcrowded with the sick were something new and unknown.

Holohan and Harris have lied from the start. Why should anybody believe them?

Remember Harris saying that pubs wouldn't re open until a vaccine was found. At the time projections were for 3 to 4 years for one to be found. And Harris attitude was well, what can you do, that's life. This lunatic was asking us to take it on the chin to cancel our social lives for the next 3 to 5 years.

Remember Leo said months back we would have a vaccine early this year.

Everyone lost their marbles at him including the media and opposition parties.....

khalessi

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

You can't live your life in fear all the time, I go to work every day and while I follow the rules I'm not going around worrying about it 24/7

JeffKenna wrote: »

Well at least we're getting to the route of why schools are staying open.

Minister of education herself said schools were staying open to necessitate childminding, she never mentioned education.

Jinglejangle69

khalessi wrote: »

Minister of education herself said schools were staying open to necessitate childminding, she never mentioned education.

Well she was wrong so.

Mike Murdock

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

They have started closing the overflow Nightinggale hospitals in London..

You know why that is right? Because they don't have the staff numbers to man them properly. Because a significant number of NHS staff are now off sick.

Nothing to do with not needing them.

tom1ie

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

They have started closing the overflow Nightinggale hospitals in London.

Not to mention you would think that hospitals overcrowded with the sick were something new and unknown.

Holohan and Harris have lied from the start. Why should anybody believe them?

Remember Harris saying that pubs wouldn't re open until a vaccine was found. At the time projections were for 3 to 4 years for one to be found. And Harris attitude was well, what can you do, that's life. This lunatic was asking us to take it on the chin to cancel our social lives for the next 3 to 5 years.

They are talking about reopening the nightingale hospitals. Problem is they don’t have the staff to man them as there is a large amount testing positive for covid.
I suggest you check your “facts”.

I don’t care what Harris said at some stage.
Fact is uk hospitals are now overwhelmed and people who don’t have covid will be affected if they have an accident due to no service being available.
That’s what will happen here.

Mike Murdock

tom1ie wrote: »

They are talking about reopening the nightingale hospitals. Problem is they don’t have the staff to man them as there is a large amount testing positive for covid.
I suggest you check your “facts”.

I don’t care what Harris said at some stage.
Fact is uk hospitals are now overwhelmed and people who don’t have covid will be affected if they have an accident due to no service being available.
That’s what will happen here.

Who needs facts on a message board when you can just rant?

GreeBo

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

They have started closing the overflow Nightinggale hospitals in London.

Yeah they have... Because they don't have enough staff to run them properly!