homewardbound11 wrote: » Since the match I have looked over social media comments from supporters . It is a absolutely mind boggling how poor the average Dublin supporter who comments on media articles . The manner in which they drive digs at opposition is of a vulgar low level intelligence . I remember being at a league game when Armagh were coming off their peak ( mid 00s) . I brought a UK friend to see a Gaa game . The level of insults of abuse from men in their retirement age was offensive . We never even said a word but thankfully we moved to another part of the stadium . I roll on to the semifinal in 2019 and were with my young family in the family section . The family in front of us spear headed by their father just riled abuse at mayo and directed it at us . Again we moved out of disgust . My kids nA we want to return to Croke park after that Dublin family’s abusive remarks . We are no frail family but do know when to keep our mouths shut . Kerry annihilated mayo in04 and 06. None of their supporters hurled abuse at mayo . I’m sure they were glad of the easy win but again the breed of winner was different in Kerry . At least publically . What they write on their own Kerry pro boards is upto them selves but generally not directed outward . So why is it that the large minority of positing Dublin supporter has to remark with adolescent replies solely at the aim of disrespect and herd calling .
muddle84 wrote: » I don't think its fair to single out Dublin here. There is gombeens in every county including our own. Did none of you see some of the comments directed at Philly McMahon from Mayo fans online? The worst behaviour i ever seen was from a mayo fan in the 17 final when he leaned forward over two rows and hit a child (dublin fan sitting beside his father) over the head with a program. Dublin has a bigger fan base so there may well be more gombeens but I wouldn't class them as the average fan at all. Not from my experience of them anyway.
SomethingElse wrote: » I'd completely agree with that too, from my many trips to Croke Park I've always found Kerry fans to conduct themselves with genuine class. Dublin fans on the other hand have been a completely different experience. A lot of this can be attributed to socio-economic issues in our capital - a section of the Dublin support would be from deprived areas where education standards are poor and this is reflected in their general demeanour and conduct.
interlocked wrote: » I've got to get this off my chest. People think that Mayo people are on their knees with despair after losing ten All Finals, that we are broken with defeats and are serial losers. It's the total opposite. Mayo football in the last twenty years has been the greatest catalyst in reviving the morale of our county. We don't look at ourselves anymore as a maternity ward for emigrants, nor the lament of John Healy's magnificent cry of "No one shouted Stop". My parish for example, in 1841 had a population of 8,200, in 1981, it was 900. We were broken, scattered across the world, and yet we clung to the green and red. It meant something, it meant home. So when Paddy or Aido or Cillian bursts through with a ball, and the primal roar erupts, it's not just about a game of football. We've regained our identity now, and we wear it proudly, wherever in the world we walk. We stand tall and declare proudly where we're from. It matters, it matters an awful lot. A Mayo man or woman now stands up with that crest on their chest and are damned proud of it. We've gained a renewed appreciation of where we live and the beauty that it contains. That's why we support the lads so rabidly, we know that they represent the best of us, we see that they are the best of us, and we know really, that whether All ireland or no, it's beyond football, it always was....
flasher0030 wrote: » Brilliantly put. I was thinking the same thing several times. You hear about this poor Mayo fans rubbish. It's obviously awful tough for the players to just fall short from topping the podium time after time. But for the supporters we are absolutely blessed to have such a decade of following the Mayo team. Face it, we are a minority county in that we have do not have near the resources that the bigger traditional counties have. But for some reason the team has excelled far beyond what it really should need have. Maybe it's just fortune that a great group of players came along at the same time. I don't know. But whatever it is, I have had numerous highs in following them, particularly since 2012. The highs far outweigh the lows. Don't get me wrong, it would be unreal to hear the Green & red of Mayo blaring out after an All-Ireland win. But at the end of the say, it's the players that experience proper disappointment. For the rest of us, there will be a period of disappointment,but then life then just goes on. And soon will follow more of the same excitement and buzz that we have been accustomed to.
muddle84 wrote: » I would also question the minority bit? In terms of population there is 16 counties bigger than us but were nowhere near the smallest. But in terms of following/fanbase we are surely only second to Dublin?
flasher0030 wrote: » What does fanbase have to do with quality of performances and achievements over an 9 year period? Are you saying that it's because you think Mayo have such loud and enthusiastic followers, that that's what kept the team going with win after win, albeit falling short at the final hurdle? Many counties think they are a fanatical following, but it doesn't get them anywhere if the players are not there. I know recently O'Rourke was bigging up the Cavana supporters - best in the country etc. I haven't seen Cavan in too many all-Ireland finals. As you say, Mayo have a middle of the road population; is a large county where players are sparsely located around the county, which doesn't help in terms of travel, meetings etc. ; many of the players are based in Dublin,which again is not ideal for team bonding. Came across the following link. There may be something more up to date; But in the decade from 2007 to 2017, Mayo were 26th out of 32, in a listing of the counties receiving funding coaching/game development grants from GAA.https://twitter.com/SeanMcGoldrick1/status/959548617701969922/photo/1 And yet in spite of the above, we have been in 4 of the last 9 All-Irelands. I think that's an amazing achievement. I genuinely don't think having any pot of gold has helped Mayo - sponsorship etc. As far as I know the county board are up to their neck in debt, so that's going to be a factor before throwing money at the senior team. I'm sure the spending on the senior mens team is high enough - but it has to be considering the funding requirement needed to pay for the expenses incurred in a run to an All-Ireland final. But it's not that spending that got the team going back in 2012 when they kinda came out of nowhere to get to the final. And as per the link above the spending on the games development has been very low.
The Supporter wrote: » If Mayo are to win the Big Prize in the future the following changes will have to be made - (1) Every thing that happens inside the Mayo Camp will have to be water tight, there are many examples of the benefits of a water tight camps, Tyrone in 1993 were lucky to draw with Down in Ulster Final,they had big problems at fullback, for the replay Mickey Harte moved Cormac McAnallen from midfield to full back, the move was a great success, Tyrone caught Down by surprise with the move (No one outside the Tyrone camp knew of the new fullback until throw in). In 2008 All Ireland Final Harte replaced one of his corner backs just minutes before throw in by Justin or Joe McMahon and he moved both of the McMahons to the full back line to mark Walsh and Donaghy, it was a resounding success, again no one outside the camp knew of the move. In 2013 Davy Fitzgerald replaced the Clare full forward fifteen mins before throw with Shane McDonnell in All Ireland Hurling Final Replay, McDonnell scored 3 goals, no one outside of the Clare camp knew of the change. Jim McGuinness dropped one of his top players namely Kevin Cassidy from Donegal panel because he spoke to a journalist. Many many times out side Croke Park I heard of changes or injuries to the Mayo Team, if I could hear of those changes I am sure the news got to our opponents as well. (2) Complacency has cost us games down through the years ( Mayo won National League in 1970,2001 and 2019 and on each occasion Roscommon knocked us out of the Championship). In 2014 I spoke to a Mayo player days prior to Mayo playing Roscommon, I said to him be ready for the challenge Roscommon will bring, he seemed very surprised that Roscommon were a threat (Mayo scraped a one point win).Darragh O Se on Dublin,"they take every game seriously". Colm O Rourke on the same subject "Dublin don't do complacency or overconfidence".
wirelessdude01 wrote: » The ConTel leak seemed to have been well and truly plugged this year. Total tangent but I'd love if the idea of naming a 26 was binned. Have a squad of 30 named from each squad for programme purposes. Team has to be submitted 15mins before throw in and no late changes to that allowed.
TCDStudent1 wrote: » Is there much of a difference between naming 26 or 30?
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Maybe just have a squad of 36 and be done with it. All allocated a squad number before start of competition. 4 changes allowed during competition to facilitate injuries/lack of form. Once removed from the 36 you aren't allowed back in until next competition.
seligehgit wrote: » Read the article. It's a very very disappointing attitude and disrespectful. Not sure if he was misquoted. Otherwise the ultimate of clickbait. If these are the true thoughts of Doctor David Hickey he's better to keep them close to his chest than express same in public. Can he not simply glow in the aftermath of a 5 in an row as opposed to going at it for a county that have experienced a real dearth of real success?
Green&Red wrote: » Better team by some distance, the black card just delayed them pulling away. Not sure how there wasn’t a black card for Johnny Cooper, I suppose there is that rule that you can’t give two dubs blacks at the same time. I was wrong on Oisin Mullen, he was ready for it, outstanding today and not just going forward but he’s definitely a half back McLaughlin has a lot to learn on the skills and tackling side but he’s a serious athlete and only new to this, I wouldn’t be too hard on him Conroy will be very disappointed, game passes him by Cillian was outstanding with the service he got in the first half. Thought Ruane and Loftus had great games until they tired. ROD had a good game but he needs to respect possession more. Keegan really stepped up today Pity McMahon got on, he’s a f**king tramp Nothing to be disgraced about, those lads did us proud
seligehgit wrote: » Great post LeoB. Huge fan of posters who are magnanimous in victory and can appreciate all counties within the GAA community as opposed to those with tunnel vision tendencies. Congrats on your win and many happy returns.
urranger wrote: » So who are the players you expect to shine in 2021? My predictions.... 1. Oisin Mullen will be converted to midfield. 2. The Mc Cormack lad from Claremorris will slot into full back. 3. Reape from Knockmore will take over in goals. All 3 will be central figures for us. Thoughts???
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Mullin maybe to halfback but don't see him at midfield just yet. Isn't McCoy acknowledged a halfback? Can see Clarke continuing for another year but with a clear mandate that he is to tutor Reape and clear in the knowledge that his place isn't guaranteed.