Klopp wrote: » I switched from dual pressurized to single and used 18g and i got a great shot at 26 secs. I am going to say the crema looked way better and the taste is much nicer, maybe i am convincing myself but i am sold
mad m wrote: » I received a sage pro yesterday. More grind settings on this machine. I had 19grams in the double walled basket. Custom pour at 27 seconds,got a return of 50gram shot. My grind setting was 6. Bit of adjusting to play with. Using Mahers Guatemalan beans. So I adjusted burr setting to 3 and grind setting to 10. Pulled brutal shots going up n down grinder setting. So put burr setting to 6 and grind setting to 9. Had 16g in basket, pulled custom shot to 25seconds and got out 62grams. Jesus...
mad m wrote: » Might grind beans in my Mahlkonig Vario Grinder instead
alec76 wrote: » You own one of the best home espresso grinders on the market and you’ve bought Sage Espresso Machine.... WHY!?
cw girl wrote: » I drink americanos & currently use aeropress.
cw girl wrote: » I’ve been looking at getting a good grinder/coffee machine for home & looking at the comments on the Sage machine. I drink americanos & currently use aeropress. Would the vario grinder (around 495 online now) be a better option then one of sage machines.
mad m wrote: » Present....:rolleyes: You can tell the misses...:) .
alec76 wrote: » Yeah, no chance to return then?
ED E wrote: » The more knowledgeable members may correct me here but you can't really be drinking americanos at present, you need espresso to make them. The Aeropress can't produce espresso. A grinder on its own wouldn't get you there.
Alanstrainor wrote: » I think we need to know more about your plan here. If you do buy a Vario Grinder will you also buy a dedicated espresso machine? The espresso machine will likely add 500 to your budget (or more...). But to answer specifically about the Sage machines, I got a Barista Express in Aug/Sep and use it daily. I find it fantastic, and with the built in grinder I can pull great shots. There are a few small/cheap tips and tricks that you can follow to get the best out of it. Stirring the ground coffee with a paper clip helps a lot, using a dosing funnel etc. If you are coming from a Aeropress(a great coffee maker btw), I would imagine that you don't necessarily want to get knee deep in this straight off the bat, with the best of the best grinder and machine. The Sage options will get you fantastic espresso/americano and latte style drinks. In my mind there is diminishing returns for your money with a lot of this gear. The Sage will get you a good way there imo.
rowanh wrote: » I got mine from Velo and they gave me two bags of the Velo Tandem beans they had in aldi. I was putting in 18g of beans @ 8 and pressing the double shot button, the gauge was just past 12 oclock and it was taking around 25 seconds from when the coffee started coming out. This seemed good, taste was better than with the grind finer or coarser. I think noticed that the coffee coming out was too much, like 56g or something. I changed the grind to 7/6.5 and up and down a bit and started weighing out 36g or so of coffee coming out but it was always taking around 15 seconds and gauge was right up the top. Someone gave us some beans, not freshly roasted. Seems having it on 8 now takes around 25s to do 36g of coffee, weird its that different, they are much darker than the Velo ones.. Do people always weigh the beans and coffee or do you set up the time on the machine to grind out and extract 18/36 or whatever you go for?
Klopp wrote: » My current setup on the Sage Barista Ponaire Colombian Whole bean Single 2 Cup Basket Grind 12 Internal Burr 5 18g Coffee with an extraction time of 27 seconds. I thought the grind should be much finer? The coffee taste OK, a small bit bitter but lots of crema..
DaveyDave wrote: » I used my Delonghi burr grinder with 3fe beans roasted on the 17th. 18.5g beans, tamping reduced size a fair bit so probably could have fit 19-20g in. Back to the single wall basket, shot came out about 10-12 seconds after pressing the button. Espresso was a bit bitter but a sip was manageable. Americano fairly smooth, similar to the black coffee I had from my sister's Chemex yesterday. Obviously room for improvement due to shot time. I'm not near a coffee shop to get beans ground but my burr grinder helps pinpoint the Sage grinder being the issue. Haven't heard from Sage since but I'll get back to them with the new results. I'll mess around with the Delonghi a bit more and time and weigh them for better results.
DaveyDave wrote: » Delonghi KG79: 18.5g in, 63.2g out, 18.06 seconds, Americano mostly drinkable Sage: 18.5g in, 59.6g out, 18.27 second, barely drinkable. Internal burr 1, dial 1. Takes about 7 seconds or so for the first drip in both cases. The Delonghi grind isn't as fine as the Sage but still produced better coffee. Same 3fe beans measured, roasted on the 17th.
DaveyDave wrote: » Delonghi KG79
alec76 wrote: » Delonghi kg79 would be the worst espresso grinder available on the market AFAIK , it is a bad sign if you think it outperforms Sage grinder. There are 3 main things you normally aspect from the good Espresso Grinder 1) how fine it can go , basically at finest settings it should choke your machine all together, you won’t get flow at all . 2) grind consistency,ideally every particle should be equal to each other. 3 ) Clumps .You’ll get no cofffee clumps even at finest settings. I wouldn’t aspecting all 3 things from Sage grinder , as it is only cheap , entry level machine, but it is surely must outperform Delonghi.
ryanmatty wrote: » Will there be import duty due on top of this? Amazon still calculating VAT at the Irish rate so I take it that's covered.
