boombang wrote: » The mind does indeed boggle. There's clearly going to be a spectrum from quiet aul' lads not infecting anybody to pissheads hugging and jumping all over each other. It's hard to find workable rules that permits the former without the latter emerging. I've seen the latter with my own eyes the summer months. Without controls I believe many would be back to business as usual and Ireland would not be the COVID success story that it is relative to other countries. Anyway, I don't know why I keep posting here. Most of you still want to believe that we should fling the doors open and everyone should enjoy a jar and not worry about the consequences.
Deleted User wrote: » I will be happy when i am having a few pints over the christmas . You can keep living in fear of the virus and bowing to Tony and the muppets in NPHET. Some of us are going to try and get on living some sort of life
weldoninhio wrote: » We are mid table in EU for alcohol consumption. Why is no one pulling Dr Death up on this??
Macy0161 wrote: » People would seriously say pubs are more important than schools and hospitals? Really?
HeidiHeidi wrote: » More whataboutery. It's always someone else's fault. They're prioritising. Just because you allow one thing, doesn't mean you can or should allow everything. And I've made my point about the schools (although I do think they should have closed up today). Well, as long as you're happy, then we're all happy. Because it's all about you.
Deleted User wrote: » The hospitality sector conveniently draws all the flak. Any realm of uncertainty about contact tracing is being exploited to give pubs and restaurants both barrels. The level of bias here is off the scale - schools and hospitals are being given an incredibly soft ride despite prolific Covid clusters in these environments. Virtually no cases can be attributed to pubs/restaurants, yet they are demonised to the hilt. Media only parroting Holohan's contempt for alcohol, all notion of balance is out the window. Imagine being open for trade only a fortnight and receiving that sucker punch yesterday, sickening.
the kelt wrote: » So if its all about contact reduction why are they allowing people to travel all over the country from today and then land back in to schools next monday and tuesday to mix with 30 or so other from numerous different families, no masks etc?
Deleted User wrote: » Best thing you can do is lock yourself away until this is over. Some of us want to enjoy some sort of christmas.I am going to enjoy my pints over the christmas (will be keeping my distance from the others ) . Tony, NPHET and the government can feck right off
Macy0161 wrote: » The problem is the contact tracing not going back far enough. 48 hours isn't enough, which means the Hospitality Sector is right to say "no evidence" in this State, despite the evidence in other Countries. A cynic might suggest that it suits Government not to sort this out, as it also means they can say "schools are safe". Community transmission just means they don't know. It doesn't mean any sector is or isn't "safe".
HeidiHeidi wrote: » Well if you and others of like mind insist on increasing your random contacts, then this will go on and on. It's all about contacts at the end of the day, if we reduce contacts we reduce transmission.
Deleted User wrote: » So what about when the pubs,restaurants,cafes etc were opened earlier in the year,were the numbers high, no they werent. Looks like i will be heading to the local shebeen over the christmas so
HeidiHeidi wrote: » Ask some people, the pubs are to blame. Ask other people, the schools are 100% responsible. Ask more, the house parties have us doomed. Or it's the tourists/returning emigrants. Or the funerals. Or the shopping centres. Or the GAA heads celebrating victories. Or {insert grouping of choice here} Or, or, or, or....... The whataboutery all over Covid would be absoluely hilarious if it wasn't so serious. (and two weeks is round about the lead time for effects of opening up to start to be seen, so your point is moot anyway)
Deleted User wrote: » Have you seen the numbers for the cafes,restaurants and pubs since they opened 2 weeks ago :cool:
ginoginelli wrote: » Its duplicitous when vintners talk about their premises being covid safe when they put some sanitizer on the tables and mark out 2ms on the floor. We have learnt this is very likely to have little affect on how the virus transmits. Ventilation, time spent, and masks are the key factors in stopping the spread. None this is possible in any of these premises. Indoor dining and drinking even more so (for obvious reasons) is far too risky until the vaccine. These dangerous hotspots must remain closed until after the vaccine unfortunately
Deleted User wrote: » Most people are adhering to public health advice. Only a minority are not. My problem is why are they closing down the hospitality trade again, they seem to have it in for them from the start.
John O.Groats wrote: » NPHET have constanty stated that the spike in cases are manly linked to community transmission. What you have stated about schools and tourists coming in to the country is true to an extent but don`t try to delude yourself concerning the reality about public health advice being ignored by a large number of people .
Deleted User wrote: » The issue with spikes in cases isnt from the hospitality trade which has been treated terribly since the pandemic started. We all know where the issues are from. Schools,nursing homes,tourists coming into the country etc. The cnuts in government wont say where the numbers are coming from. Blaming the hospitality trade as usual
John O.Groats wrote: » Nope. The people who have disregarded the public health advice will have themselves to blame. Long past time for all "the gubbermint is to blame for everything" bull****e to be called out for the nonsense it is. And if people do hold house parties on New Years Eve or any other time which will inevitably lead to a further spike in cases then you and others can expect to have to continue cancelling your trips away for months to come.
Deleted User wrote: » Absolute [EMAIL="w@nkers"]w@nkers[/EMAIL] running the country. Havent got the balls to stand up to the NPHET and tell them to f#ck off and wait till January 6th to bring in new restrictions. I have planned a trip away on the 28th for a couple of nights, looks like i will have to cancel it again for a 3rd time :mad:. Had planned a night out for dinner and drinks with friends in the new year who recently got married to celebrate there marriage (Couldnt attend the wedding due to restriction on numbers). Looks like that will be cancel too. Getting really pissed off now. Wait till you see the amount of house parties now on new years eve. Will have only the government to blame
the kelt wrote: » “Alcohol is a particular challenge for us in this country-let’s be honest” Temperance Tony this morning on Newstalk
weldoninhio wrote: » Ten of us heading out on Saturday for our Xmas party!! Honestly cannot wait!! Place we are going has some of the best Guinness around. Not often we all get together with family, work and kids. We tried conventional last year and went to CityNorth hotel for an Xmas party, but wasn't the same as our usual spontaneous one. Highlight last year was one of the lads messing with the computer that was showing a fire on a giant screen and googling pornhub on it and leaving the search page open on the giant screen. Never seen so many people scrambling to get to a computer so quickly. :D:D:D:D:D
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