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Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

fortwilliam

Aaaaaaaah ballax!

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/0715/1153499-politics-cabinet/

I get it, I really do, but why the focus on pubs?
I got a haircut today in the Grafton Barber where a nice barber cut my hair with no social distancing (Completely within guidance)
I just don't get the focus on the boozer...

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[Deleted User]

Allinall wrote: »

Cases are already rising, and NPHET are not blaming hospitality.

Why would January be any different?

Come January they will be blaming the hospitality trade and close them down again

Allinall

Deleted User wrote: »

Come January they will be blaming the hospitality trade and close them down again

How do you know?

Why aren't they doing it now?

Tazz T

Allinall wrote: »

How do you know?

Why aren't they doing it now?

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Er, because we just opened after a six week Level 5 shutdown.

That said, NYPHET have called a meeting today and will be asking the gov to shut down again, I suspect before Xmas. Gov knows this is political/economic suicide and will put the shutdown back to end of Dec/beginning of Jan. It will be level 5.345643

You could almost write the story at this stage.

[Deleted User]

Allinall wrote: »

How do you know?

Why aren't they doing it now?

Trust me they will. They have done it every time the numbers have risen. Blaming the pubs,restaurants etc for the rise in cases when havent actually backed it up with numbers

Tenzor07

Deleted User wrote: »

Trust me they will. They have done it every time the numbers have risen. Blaming the pubs,restaurants etc for the rise in cases when havent actually backed it up with numbers

Yes, as predictable as anything... shut down the Pub-Restaurants, close down "Non-essential" retail and stick 100,000++ people back on the PUP which will be €250 from January I believe?

CIARAN_BOYLE

Tazz T wrote: »

?

Er, because we just opened after a six week Level 5 shutdown.

That said, NYPHET have called a meeting today and will be asking the gov to shut down again, I suspect before Xmas. Gov knows this is political/economic suicide and will put the shutdown back to end of Dec/beginning of Jan. It will be level 5.345643

You could almost write the story at this stage.

Called a meeting. Just like they do every Thursday. The fact that a meeting is happening doesn't mean anything.

Now I do agree that cases have begun to rise and compliance with the regulations is very poor. There may be a sense that 'something needs to be done'.

Personally I think we will end up with a special address from MM urging people to comply with regulations over the Christmas period.

I think everyone knows thait compliance with regulations will be poor over the next few weeks so trying to bring in new ones is stupid.

MOH

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I see there's no point in talking sense in this thread. It's full of people screaming "open da pubs!" during a once in a century pandemic

The drink culture in this country is a little pathetic tbh

Not sure what you'd know about talking sense since you aren't doing any.
Go find some verifiable figures that back up your assertions before you start lecturing people about sense.

The whinge culture in this country is quite pathetic tbh

fin12

Looks like the pubs might be shut again before January . Tony Hulahoop wants the restrictions to come back in again before 6 January.

PTH2009

Enjoying my pints/food and with seeing the news tonight might be my only chance of a night out before Christmas. Going to be very hard to get in anywhere and all could be shut at close 23rd/Xmas eve

fin12

PTH2009 wrote: »

Enjoying my pints/food and with seeing the news tonight might be my only chance of a night out before Christmas. Going to be very hard to get in anywhere and all could be shut at close 23rd/Xmas eve

Do u think that early?

sasta le

Rumour going round the industry be shut very soon again before the end of Christmas

drunkmonkey

fin12 wrote: »

Looks like the pubs might be shut again before January . Tony Hulahoop wants the restrictions to come back in again before 6 January.

Christmas Eve is probably the last legal pints of the year. I don't know why all the panic we knew this would happen and planned for it. Looking like new years in the Sheebeen.

fin12

sasta le wrote: »

Rumour going round the industry be shut very soon again before the end of Christmas

F*ck sake. Hope get this weekend out of it.

fin12

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Christmas Eve is probably the last legal pints of the year. I don't know why all the panic we knew this would happen and planned for it. Looking like new years in the Sheebeen.

No I was convinced we would get to at least January 6 date.

stephenjmcd

sasta le wrote: »

Rumour going round the industry be shut very soon again before the end of Christmas

Well its not exactly a rumour when Martin said they'll bring in restrictions before NYE but nothing changes until Christmas he said.

giveitholly

Unfortunately looks like it but can't say i am surprised,only one pub opened near me and it's free for all,no food being served and everyone on top of each other,owners outside the bar drinking with the customers,can't believe the guards haven't it closed already

PTH2009

fin12 wrote: »

Do u think that early?

not a big drinker that day myself but Stephens Day will be manic around, lots of local places booked up already for it. Would make sense to shut hospitality down by then

Very frustrating esp for staff. I only went back to work this week in the retail sector and came off the covid payment and with this news I might be going back on it. The social welfare staff could have a lot of bother ahead of them once again

brendanwalsh

Two hotels in castletroy limerick having to shut as both got blasted with cases.

Four bar stuff in one well known hotel have it with tens of close contacts

drunkmonkey

fin12 wrote: »

F*ck sake. Hope get this weekend out of it.

I'm going tonight just in case, table booked beside the fire and skipped lunch.

MOH

Just back from my first indoor pint since March, along with some food.
Had planned to stay longer, but filled up a bit and I wasn't comfortable - probably less covid fear (place was well run , and very well spread out) and more down to social anxiety after spending nine months on my own in a 1-bed apartment apart from occasionally sitting outside a restaurant with friends. So being indoors with a group of strangers just feels weird.

I had planned to be sensible, take it easy up to Christmas when it's busy and maybe go out a bit more after that, but if it's looking like the bull**** hammer is falling again then I may as well go for broke over the next week. No place for common sense in this country any more.

showpony1

They are reducing the time the pubs will be open from 7th January - therefore absolutely everywhere will just be packed out there door for the next two weeks.

fin12

PTH2009 wrote: »

not a big drinker that day myself but Stephens Day will be manic around, lots of local places booked up already for it. Would make sense to shut hospitality down by then

Very frustrating esp for staff. I only went back to work this week in the retail sector and came off the covid payment and with this news I might be going back on it. The social welfare staff could have a lot of bother ahead of them once again

Ya I have places booked for 27th but ya the whole place booked out on Stephens day.

Sorry to hear about ur in the sector affected by the restrictions

Tenzor07

Well folks, enjoy a few beers and some food being served up to you before Christmas...

...Could be March again before you'll get to go out and dine with friends...

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/christmas-reopening-to-be-short-lived-as-nphet-seek-new-clampdown-on-home-visits-and-pubs-39875917.html

doublejobbing 2

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Well folks, enjoy a few beers and some food being served up to you before Christmas...

...Could be March again before you'll get to go out and dine with friends...

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/christmas-reopening-to-be-short-lived-as-nphet-seek-new-clampdown-on-home-visits-and-pubs-39875917.html

Other reports said NPHET was also after retail.

The crowds, or lack of, in the run up to Christmas rush this year is nothing short of scary when you think of

a- the economic hole this has already put us in

b- the lack of tax income from Christmas shopping being scaled back this year

I was in Blanch centre on Saturday last and there were dozens, actually dozens, of free spaces down by Liberty Insurance.

In normal times you'd struggle to get a space on a Tuesday night that close to Christmas.

Mehole got roasted over his bank bailout comments, surely we must be approaching a good percentage of similar debt from this already.

mikekerry

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Well folks, enjoy a few beers and some food being served up to you before Christmas...

...Could be March again before you'll get to go out and dine with friends...

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/christmas-reopening-to-be-short-lived-as-nphet-seek-new-clampdown-on-home-visits-and-pubs-39875917.html

They'll be nothing left to open in March

Tenzor07

mikekerry wrote: »

They'll be nothing left to open in March

Probably a few Wetherspoons i'd say..

Stock up on booze folks: https://www.lidl.ie/en/p/big-brand-super-savers/budweiser-bulmers/p57706

doublejobbing 2

Deleted User wrote: »

Trust me they will. They have done it every time the numbers have risen. Blaming the pubs,restaurants etc for the rise in cases when havent actually backed it up with numbers

You know what always confuses me?

MMR skeptics are always told by the medical establishment "correlation doesn't equal causation".

Yet when it comes to pubs and NPHET, all they do is justify their diktats with hyperbolic pseudoscience that shows the vaguest of links between pubs reopening and cases increasing. The exact same graphs MMR skeptics use to show an alleged link between the vaccine and autism.

It is another reason I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw them. For those of you who doubt NPHET has an agenda against pubs, why are Holohan's opinions on foreign travel (the biggest driver of infection by far) little more than tacit disapproval but pubs are essentially death row?

Ted_YNWA

fin12 wrote: »

Looks like the pubs might be shut again before January . Tony Hulahoop wants the restrictions to come back in again before 6 January.

Mod

Can we avoid going down the name calling route again.

By all means attack the advise he is providing, just don't personalise it.

ShooterSF

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Other reports said NPHET was also after retail.

The crowds, or lack of, in the run up to Christmas rush this year is nothing short of scary when you think of

a- the economic hole this has already put us in

b- the lack of tax income from Christmas shopping being scaled back this year

I was in Blanch centre on Saturday last and there were dozens, actually dozens, of free spaces down by Liberty Insurance.

In normal times you'd struggle to get a space on a Tuesday night that close to Christmas.

Mehole got roasted over his bank bailout comments, surely we must be approaching a good percentage of similar debt from this already.

I don't think you can necessarily conflate the two. I have probably spent more this xmas than the last few but all the presents I bought were online, most from Irish stores, some from the UK. A global pandemic and a restriction stopping me from going to Blanch as I live in Meath means people like myself won't be parked in Blanch when I normally would.

Zebra3

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Well folks, enjoy a few beers and some food being served up to you before Christmas...

...Could be March again before you'll get to go out and dine with friends...

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/christmas-reopening-to-be-short-lived-as-nphet-seek-new-clampdown-on-home-visits-and-pubs-39875917.html

Utterly vile reporting from the Indo's "journalists".

The cabinet is to meet Tuesday to discuss the latest Nphet recommendations and Mr Martin added that the government would “seriously consider” the crackdown on pubs, restaurants and household visits before New Year’s Eve.

Crackdown.

A term used on organised crime.