Hundreds of Muslims gather to celebrate funeral of man who beheaded French teacher

RandRuns wrote: »

What Islamic countries have Sweden invaded? How many Muslims are Swedes responsible for killing?

Swedish troops have served on NATO, EU and UN missions in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Mali, Somalia, Yemen, UNTSO (Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and Israel) and Western Sahara.

While Swedes may not have killed any Muslims, they have trained indiginous troops to do just that (Well AQ & ISIL). This has resulted in at least one confirmed Islamist terror attack in Sweden (2017), specifically motivated by Swedish troops training the Iraqi military.

Also, anyone who truely believes that terrorists are "all the same", have a limited understanding and very simplistic view of terrorism.

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Swedish troops have served on NATO, EU and UN missions in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Mali, Somalia, Yemen, UNTSO (Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and Israel) and Western Sahara.

While Swedes may not have killed any Muslims, they have trained indiginous troops to do just that (Well AQ & ISIL). This has resulted in at least one confirmed Islamist terror attack in Sweden (2017), specifically motivated by Swedish troops training the Iraqi military.

So the attacks are justified then ??? Jesus Christ.

Gervais08 wrote: »

So the attacks are justified then ??? Jesus Christ.

Is that what I said? Or is that what you think I said?

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Swedish troops have served on NATO, EU and UN missions in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Mali, Somalia, Yemen, UNTSO (Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and Israel) and Western Sahara.

While Swedes may not have killed any Muslims, they have trained indiginous troops to do just that (Well AQ & ISIL). This has resulted in at least one confirmed Islamist terror attack in Sweden (2017), specifically motivated by Swedish troops training the Iraqi military.

I posted once in this thread so far to stare what I though of the evil killer and those who defend that kind of scum.

I know you are replying to somebody else so this is not aimed at you.:)

However your post in the last in a series of posts that I have not read from many posters.

My question and my point is what has this line of conversation got to do with an innocent teacher being beheaded for showing a silly picture to kids?

We have shows like Father Ted and movies like the Life of Brian but everybody gets their knickers in a twist over this.

Beheading people because of it just makes it even more sure people will mock and reject the backward violent ideology.

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Is that what I said? Or is that what you think I said?

My apologies, I misread that. There’s been attempts at justification for attacks here.

Sorry.

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I posted once in this thread so far to stare what I though of the evil killer and those who defend that kind of scum.

I know you are replying to somebody else so this is not aimed at you.:)

However your post in the last in a series of posts that I have not read from many posters.

My question and my point is what has this line of conversation got to do with an innocent teacher being beheaded for showing a silly picture to kids?

We have shows like Father Ted and movies like the Life of Brian but everybody gets their knickers in a twist over this.

Beheading people because of it just makes it even more sure people will mock and reject the backward violent ideology.

I’m Catholic and I wet myself laughing still at the Life of Brian.

I’ve never wanted to shoot up the film production offices or attack dear Graham Chapman while he was alive.

Gervais08 wrote: »

My apologies, I misread that. There’s been attempts at justification for attacks here.

Sorry.

No apology required. I shouldnt have edited the post I was quoting, it lacked context.

jmreire

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Swedish troops have served on NATO, EU and UN missions in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Mali, Somalia, Yemen, UNTSO (Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and Israel) and Western Sahara.

While Swedes may not have killed any Muslims, they have trained indiginous troops to do just that (Well AQ & ISIL). This has resulted in at least one confirmed Islamist terror attack in Sweden (2017), specifically motivated by Swedish troops training the Iraqi military.

Also, anyone who truely believes that terrorists are "all the same", have a limited understanding and very simplistic view of terrorism.

I met the Irish Troop's in Liberia, and they were on the Golan and in the past Lebanon...but what other Country's on your list were they in??

jmreire wrote: »

I met the Irish Troop's in Liberia, and they were on the Golan and in the past Lebanon...but what other Country's on your list were they in??

I had a pint with a young guy who was going to Chad but that was a couple of years back.

Gervais08 wrote: »

I’m Catholic and I wet myself laughing still at the Life of Brian.

I’ve never wanted to shoot up the film production offices or attack dear Graham Chapman while he was alive.

I could not even kill an animal never mind behead another innocent person.

I could not even bring myself to kill an evil beast that would do such a thing.

But he carried out this evil act because he wanted to strike the fear of God into all of us not to mock his phoney religion.

If we shy away from and bend over backwards from daring to speak against this evil for fear of offending this evil we give the terrorists what they want.

When an innocent person is killed for the so called sin of offending Islam millions of pictures like this should go up everywhere.
Killing innocent people should bring about the exact opposite of what they evil killers want.

Let the peaceful Muslims show their outrage at murder instead of a harmless cartoon.

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I posted once in this thread so far to stare what I though of the evil killer and those who defend that kind of scum.

I know you are replying to somebody else so this is not aimed at you.:)

However your post in the last in a series of posts that I have not read from many posters.

My question and my point is what has this line of conversation got to do with an innocent teacher being beheaded for showing a silly picture to kids?

We have shows like Father Ted and movies like the Life of Brian but everybody gets their knickers in a twist over this.

Beheading people because of it just makes it even more sure people will mock and reject the backward violent ideology.

Well, in simplistic terms it is about extremism and radicalisation.

Jihadist/Islamist extremism is transnational in nature. It transcends boundaries, borders and societies due to its ideology. It exists and is intermixed among moderate or peaceful Muslim communities.

To disrespect the Prophet is a serious offence to those of the Muslim faith with archaic extremist views, its sacred and must not go unpunished.

What is a "silly picture" to you and I, is a red line for some.

The issue is the regular calls by ISIL to believers in "the West", to conduct attacks against "non believers". A display of the Prophet and in this specific context of freedom of expression (from Mr. Paty) was enough to warrant the attack (in the attackers view)

Also, theres literally nothing stopping a Catholic extremist doing the same thing on seeing Father Ted and taking insult to it.

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Well, in simplistic terms it is about extremism and radicalisation.

Jihadist/Islamist extremism is transnational in nature. It transcends boundaries, borders and societies due to its ideology. It exists and is intermixed among moderate or peaceful Muslim communities.

To disrespect the Prophet is a serious offence to those of the Muslim faith with archaic extremist views, its sacred and must not go unpunished.

What is a "silly picture" to you and I, is a red line for some.

The issue is the regular calls by ISIL to believers in "the West", to conduct attacks against "non believers". A display of the Prophet and in this specific context of freedom of expression (from Mr. Paty) was enough to warrant the attack (in the attackers view)

Also, theres literally nothing stopping a Catholic extremist doing the same thing on seeing Father Ted and taking insult to it.

Killing innocent people is the red line for me.

How can people defend this kind of thing and then try to proclaim the moral high ground and condemn images and words?

There are many religions in the world some more silly than others but they do not murder non believers.

jmreire wrote: »

I met the Irish Troop's in Liberia, and they were on the Golan and in the past Lebanon...but what other Country's on your list were they in??

Still in Lebanon, Syria, Israel, Mali.

Previously in Afghanistan, Somalia, Iran, Egypt, Iraq, Palestine, Kuwait...and a few more.

Was in Liberia in 05-06, were you there then?

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Also, theres literally nothing stopping a Catholic extremist doing the same thing on seeing Father Ted and taking insult to it.

This would be funny if the subject was not so serious.:(

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Killing innocent people is the red line for me.

How can people defend this kind of thing and then try to proclaim the moral high ground and condemn images and words?

There are many religions in the world some more silly than others but they do not murder non believers.

I agree but "Jihad" against non believers (including other Muslims) is encouraged in the Quran. These non believers are basically the followers of Satan, because we believe in a different "God"....and not Allah, we are non believers and legitimate targets.

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

I agree but "Jihad" against non believers is encouraged in the Quran. These non believers are basically the followers of Satan, because we believe in a different "God"....and not Allah, we are non believers and legitimate targets.

I don't have the answers here and I will admit that.

I do know giving into the wishes of evil killers only shows that killing people gets them what they want.

Whatever happened to not giving into the demands of terrorists?

Banana Republic 1

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

I agree but "Jihad" against non believers (including other Muslims) is encouraged in the Quran. These non believers are basically the followers of Satan, because we believe in a different "God"....and not Allah, we are non believers and legitimate targets.

Moronic statement. These terrorist cults kill far more fellow Muslims than any other grouping.

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Moronic statement. These terrorist cults kill far more fellow Muslims than any other grouping.

How is it moronic? It’s accurate!

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Moronic statement. These terrorist cults kill far more fellow Muslims than any other grouping.

It's not a "moronic" statement and you should probably retract that part of your post, less you look moronic yourself.

I agree, they do kill far more Muslims (mainly because of their area of operations), there is absilutely no denying that.

To Jihadist/Islamist fundamentalists, we (the West) are legitimate targets because we dont believe what they believe.

Its factual, not moronic.

Also, the Crusades killed between 5-9 Million Muslims, I dont think ISIL has got that far yet.