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STOVES questions and answers here(see mod note in post 1)

paddy147

The amount of threads getting posted each day about stoves is unreal and taking away from other plumbing issues.

Can I suggest to the members and also the mods a dedicated "sticky" thread about stoves and nothing else.

Thanks.:)

Hi Folks. This sticky has been suggested by a regular poster and contributed to quite well. It seems to have generated a lot of interest. While advertising is not permitted under forum charter a balanced view of multiple suppliers is allowed. The rule of thumb is if you are unsure just ask. But keeping it simple and discussing the techanical details of multiple suppliers will be safe. Keep pricing out of the thread and only reply if requested to by PM -Personal message. An instant permant ban will result for breach of charter on advertising.

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5500

Forge83 wrote: »

Fair play to them for standing over the installation. Let us know how it goes.

I think we're now all good. Lit it yesterday and there was only the slightest of smell like before but no smoke alarm went off so hopefully sorted.

Only other issue I have is when they replaced the granite surroundings the one used is slightly smaller by about 10mm compared to the old one, and I previously had the fireplace plasteree after it was installed.

I dont mind filling it myself but just wondering about what to use on the top side seen as it gets hot here, I didn't want to risk caulk or filler incase it burns/cracks but any ideas?

batman1

5500 wrote: »

They put in 2 copper pipes as additional vents at the top of the chimney, and refit the stove, they said there's no residue on the firebox to suggest an issue there so have put the originals all back in.

They said to wait till tomorrow to light it and see how it goes, fingers crossed its finally sorted

When you say 2 copper pipes, where are these installed from/to. Are they fitted between the Flexi liner and clay liners to ventilate that space?
How do they exit at the top?

5500

batman1 wrote: »

When you say 2 copper pipes, where are these installed from/to. Are they fitted between the Flexi liner and clay liners to ventilate that space?
How do they exit at the top?

They are at the top of the chimney and look to be between the flexi and clay liner, i think they were each only about a foot long, they are hard to see from below but look to exit out to the sides of the cowl thats on the top of the liner/pot.

chooseusername

batman1 wrote: »

When you say 2 copper pipes, where are these installed from/to. Are they fitted between the Flexi liner and clay liners to ventilate that space?
How do they exit at the top?

From this site
Where TecnoFlex Plus is used serving a solid fuel appliance,ventilation between the liner and the inside of the chimney will be required. This is provided by installing two 15mm pipes into the masonry at the top of the stack just below the top plate and clamp, at an angle to prevent the ingress of rainwater. lt would also be necessary to install a vent at the base of the stack above the debris plate or the gather unit.This should be an air brick or vent of 20cm (see Fig. 8, 9 ,10 p.10). If the cavity is to be insulated with pearlite, or tube wrap insulation, then two 15mm pipes at the top of the stack to allow any moisture in the insulation to evaporate freely, must still be provided.

I must say I never heard of this.

BullBauld

What do folk think about those shed stoves that are advertised on donedeal etc. A bit more rustic than your normal stove. The cost mainly €100-€150.
Would one of these do the job (in the shed) or pay a bit extra for a second hand stove.

brandonviewer

Planning to get a Henley Apollo insert stove installed. The wife would prefer a cream ceramic one but the installer is adamant that the paint on these chips very easily and that they become shabby very quickly. He is recommending the Matt black. Anyone have any views on this???

Forge83

brandonviewer wrote: »

Planning to get a Henley Apollo insert stove installed. The wife would prefer a cream ceramic one but the installer is adamant that the paint on these chips very easily and that they become shabby very quickly. He is recommending the Matt black. Anyone have any views on this???

Would agree with installer. A Matt black stove can be resprayed easily when it gets marked and shabby. You have to really mind an enamel stove, one chip and it’s chipped forever. Installers hate them as they can easily chip them on installation and have to take the blame.

brandonviewer

Forge83 wrote: »

Would agree with installer. A Matt black stove can be resprayed easily when it gets marked and shabby. You have to really mind an enamel stove, one chip and it’s chipped forever. Installers hate them as they can easily chip them on installation and have to take the blame.

Thanks forge83. I definitely felt that this was the installers problem all right

Westernworld.

Hi

Is there a way to fix the legs on the Stanley Oisin stove?
I want to stop it moving after I attach the flue

Forge83

Westernworld. wrote: »

Hi

Is there a way to fix the legs on the Stanley Oisin stove?
I want to stop it moving after I attach the flue

Assuming the legs aren’t adjustable...
Dab of heat resistant silicone under the legs.

Westernworld.

Forge83 wrote: »

Assuming the legs aren’t adjustable...
Dab of heat resistant silicone under the legs.

I mean to stop it sliding ,not a height adjustment

funkey_monkey

Forge83 wrote: »

There will be a top baffle inside the stove that can be removed for access to the flue.

Hi Forge, can you please clarify the process to measure the vacuum? Can the front door be open for this test?
Is there a cheapish device that I can get to do this measurement?

jc bamford

brandonviewer wrote: »

Planning to get a Henley Apollo insert stove installed. The wife would prefer a cream ceramic one but the installer is adamant that the paint on these chips very easily and that they become shabby very quickly. He is recommending the Matt black. Anyone have any views on this???

We have a brown enamel Henely Scellig free standing stove for last 7 or 8 years and there is not a mark on it

gameoverman

We have a 6kw Vitae cassette stove installed a few years now, hole-in-the-wall style with the 4 sided trim. We now want to restyle the room to put a simple fireplace around it instead. So our idea is to remove the trim and surround the stove with 20mm black granite instead. Just curious if anyone has done similar?

Slight concern is that the granite would sit just outside the frame whereas the trim kindof slots into it, so final look might not be as tidy?

mrtom

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Hi Forge, can you please clarify the process to measure the vacuum? Can the front door be open for this test?
Is there a cheapish device that I can get to do this measurement?

This small device it placed up against the Air intake of a roaring fire with door closed to get a reading. Your stove manual may have the recommended max & min values in hectopascal hPa.

My experience with installer attempting to ID cause of smoking stove. The supplier fitted a shorter baffle with no improvement in my case. Good luck.

stevek93

Hi all,

This may sound stupid but here goes

I got a multi flue stove recently, I am trying not to burn coal in it or very little and just logs.

I was thinking if I was to keep the coal burning on top of the logs for as long as possible instead of sitting on the grate and burning would I get a longer life out of the grate? or should I continue not to use coal to increase the lifespan of the grate?

Forge83

stevek93 wrote: »

Hi all,

This may sound stupid but here goes I got a multi flue stove recently, I am trying not to burn coal in it or very little and just logs.

I was thinking if I was to keep the coal burning on top of the logs for as long as possible instead of sitting on the grate and burning would I get a longer life out of the grate? or should I continue not to use coal to increase the lifespan of the grate?

Coal and wood should not be burned together. Coal burns at a hotter temperature and just eat through the wood. They also mix poorly and produce a solution which will destroy your stove and chimney.

TTTT

Forge83 wrote: »

Coal and wood should not be burned together. Coal burns at a hotter temperature and just eat through the wood. They also mix poorly and produce a solution which will destroy your stove and chimney.

I disagree. Coal and DRY wood burn very well together. The wood ignites earlier and helps too ignite the coal gasses which leads to a cleaner burn.

upupup

stevek93 wrote: »

Hi all,

This may sound stupid but here goes I got a multi flue stove recently, I am trying not to burn coal in it or very little and just logs.

I was thinking if I was to keep the coal burning on top of the logs for as long as possible instead of sitting on the grate and burning would I get a longer life out of the grate? or should I continue not to use coal to increase the lifespan of the grate?

There is no need to mix coal and logs as you will get all the heat you need from the coal without the need to open the door to put in a log and getting a waft of smoke into the room.If you have a ferrari,you dont drive it like a lada to get a few more years out of it....I burn coal only and have never burnt out a grate yet,its not a common problem and easy to fix if you are unlucky with a poor grate.
There is no problem mixing coal and logs if you want but only if you have a flexi flue installed to stop any build up of creosote in an unlined chimney.

stevek93

Thanks all, yes I have kiln dried logs <20% moisture if even any moisture at all. The chimney is lined with flexi.

What I do is put the logs on the bottom and a little bit of coal on top of the logs and I get a much longer burn and heat output.

I bought one of those fans to sit on top of the stove they are fantastic at sending the heat around the house.

Bass Reeves

stevek93 wrote: »

Thanks all, yes I have kiln dried logs <20% moisture if even any moisture at all. The chimney is lined with flexi.

What I do is put the logs on the bottom and a little bit of coal on top of the logs and I get a much longer burn and heat output.

I bought one of those fans to sit on top of the stove they are fantastic at sending the heat around the house.

But nuggets or ovids or a mix of both. Neither burn as a high a temperature as some coals. I start my fire with a mixture of nuggets and timber. And then all timber. However I have my own timber.

Are you buying the timber in small bags it crazy if you are. Buy in bulk

stevek93

Bass Reeves wrote: »

But nuggets or ovids or a mix of both. Neither burn as a high a temperature as some coals. I start my fire with a mixture of nuggets and timber. And then all timber. However I have my own timber.

Are you buying the timber in small bags it crazy if you are. Buy in bulk

I got recently 2.2m3 of logs stacked for 360e delivered

[Deleted User]

I was out walking in an estate of houses the other evening- I smelt a very strange smell coming from a particular house chimney- I’m trying to think what it smelt like- vaguely it’s similar to “fart spray” that you might find in a joke shop- that’s probably the closest I can describe it- so wondering what they’re burning? Do those lighter logs you find in supermarkets give off an iffy smell or can you think what it might be? Maybe it was treated wood? Smell was quite unpleasant

Bass Reeves

stevek93 wrote: »

I got recently 2.2m3 of logs stacked for 360e delivered

Is that form Dairygold

stevek93

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I was out walking in an estate of houses the other evening- I smelt a very strange smell coming from a particular house chimney- I’m trying to think what it smelt like- vaguely it’s similar to “fart spray” that you might find in a joke shop- that’s probably the closest I can describe it- so wondering what they’re burning? Do those lighter logs you find in supermarkets give off an iffy smell or can you think what it might be? Maybe it was treated wood? Smell was quite unpleasant

Maybe rubbish?

hometruths

anybody know of a stove fitter in North Wicklow/south Dublin who could fit a replacement stove asap - i.e this week?

stevek93

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Is that form Dairygold

Coopsuperstores? No I got the logs from bioglow but when I check their site now they are sold out.

Handballollie

Hi. I have a boring chieftain inset boiler stove. I noticed recently that it seems to have move outwards on one side about 5mm or so. It’s not possible that someone could have pulled it out so I’m thinking heat has led to this. Just wondering if anyone else has had this issue with inset stoves?

positron

positron wrote: »

I am currently DIY'ing a gas cassette stove with ceramic blanket around it - it's just in the wall today, waiting for gas guy to come and connect it.

Just wondering if the ceramic blanket can go on top of the stove (as well as the back and sides) - I can't remember if the specialist shop I bought the ceramic blanket said to not to put in on the top or not... something about bonding resin gassing off and the blanket settling onto the stove..

Just putting this here for future reference if anyone is looking thru this thread...

Local stove place adviced not to put ceramic blanket on the top of the stove. Just sides and back. It was installed soon after, and there was a strong smell for about three - four weeks, which is from the ceramic blanket's bonding resin evaporating or whatever. I was a bit worried about it at first to be honest, but now, a month later, there's no more smell, and there's tons of heat coming out of the stove. Loving the overall result.

stevek93

Anyone know how I would go about getting a damper put on my flue? I want to limit the amount of air coming down the chimney, with the breeze outside now the fire is struggling to keep lit.