drunkmonkey wrote: » Agree but not much use if the women who get it find they can't form a placenta and we're left breeding with the antivaxers.
hmmm wrote: » I don't think the antivaxers will be breeding anytime soon.https://www.lx.com/coronavirus/another-reason-to-wear-a-mask-covid-19-may-cause-erectile-dysfunction/25830/
drunkmonkey wrote: » Agree but not much use if the women who get it find they can't form a placenta and we're left breeding with the antivaxers. You can hardly compare it to getting the virus we've tested on probably 600 million versus the 30,000 odd with the vaccine.
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Hmmzis wrote: » Yes, if you can encode the protein with mRNA (should be basically any protein that a living cell can produce) then you can make a vaccine that creates an immune response against it. There might be ways how to solve some auto-immune disorders as well by creating proteins that bind to rouge antibodies but don't block the bodies own signaling proteins for the same receptors.
Deleted User wrote: » I have found Australia seem to be the slowest. But its true to say a lot of Med Device companies go foe CE approval well in advance of submitting to the FDA. Interestingly having experienced regulatory body audits by FDA, Korea, Japan, Brazil, China, Australia and a number of notified bodies, by far and away the toughest auditors are those from HPRA
speckle wrote: » Hmmzis could you elaborate on how it may solve some auto immune disorders or point towards a link with some information. thanks
mandrake04 wrote: » Yes tell me about it the TGA also known as the Therapeutic Thorough Goods Administration. I have worked on Products that were in the field in Japan, SK and Australia for 2 years before submitted to FDA as they are able to iron out problems and it’s easier if the device been on the market beforehand. With FDA you change a few words in the service manual and it’s costs something like $28K CE mark usually just means you won’t cut or burn yourself on the device and it doesn’t harm the environment, it’s not as extensive as proving it does what it says on the tin.
Hmmzis wrote: » Honestly, that was just me pondering around the topic of what might be sort of possible to do - it's proteins on top of proteins after all. Now that you asked I did a quick google search, just to see what the proper smart people think about it. Well, they're already doing stuff:https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-builds-clinical-validation-systemic-delivery-two There is also a mention of an antibody delivered this way. Probably for people who can't make antibodies due to various immune system conditions.
speckle wrote: » Thanks reading that has made curiouser and curiouser like Alice getting lost down a rabbit hole of new interesting things to read. My oh my, they have alot of fingers in many different pies. I wonder if they will eventually be able to personally tailor some of it ...out of ones own rna, so as to not have the sense of 'other' than yourself doing the delievery/repair. The tech might even be able to possibly help diabetes T1 or even restore sight for some, as long as it works with no unintended side effects downstream. Which brings me back to a dream last April I had re being able to glue/bind the two ends of the sars coV 2 rna together to make it inert. (any nfp scientists out there want to run with my crazy idea?) Maybe someday I might be able to work with agencys overseas like my friends which I cant at the moment due to medical reasons. Anyhow that made my saturday night with nothing open and just the wind gusting and hail beating down outside, much less boring. Thanks
timsey tiger wrote: » Today is Friday
Gael23 wrote: » WHO at it again https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/who-warns-against-believing-pandemic-is-over-due-to-vaccine-availability-1.4427809
Cork2021 wrote: » Also not a bad hypothesis from David Higginshttps://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1334920654504644608?s=21
funnydoggy wrote: » If so, even in the worst case scenario (which is doubtful) that it lasts 3 months, our t-cells and antibodies will be on f*cking anabolic steroids and ready to Thanos snap any virus particles that make their way into the body.
wes wrote: » Another way to get people take the vaccine maybe to pay people. Maybe give them a few hundred euro for taking the vaccine or additional tax credits or something like that.
Pasteur. wrote: » Is the ex presidents actually taking the vaccine live on air? Or is it just talk for now
What Username Guidelines wrote: » It may have been discussed on thread already, but if they manage to lash through all staff and patients of nursing homes, is there a risk of false side effects impacting the public’s perception of the vaccine? How many residents pass away every month in nursing homes? I wonder will families of those begin to question its safety. Then onto the general public. Let’s just say we get the vast majority done in 6-9 months. There’ll definitely be confirmation bias when someone says “oh I had a terrible X days after the vaccine” and the one thing we’ll all have in common is recently vaccinated. Has such a wide scale vaccination happened before? At least with age-based vaccinations, correlations can be drawn. But everything from mild colds to more serious diagnoses will likely have people skeptical as they’ve “recently” taken the vaccine.
Micky 32 wrote: » The WHO still on about this : "Vaccination will add a major, major, powerful tool to the tool kit that we have. But by themselves, they will not do the job." So still restrictions and lockdowns alongside the vaccine? What the hell would the point of the vaccine then!? Feck off.......
nocoverart wrote: » Give me that sweet, sweet Vaccine in my bum cheeks if that’s what it takes. Always regretted not traveling enough and would let personal insecurities get in the way. I’m actually In prime position for a bit of solo traveling at some stage next year so no more procrastinating for me, and no more Covid please.
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