AndyBoBandy wrote: » I’d say you should be fine, and if in doubt, simply slowing down a bit will help your efficiency, But you can always stop for a quick tip up somewhere anyway.... a 10 minute coffee/toilet break could put 60-100km into the battery....
Professor Moriarty wrote: » May I ask on that, is it the case that a charging point would always be free? Or would there be queues?
Markcheese wrote: » Does tesla have a preheat facility on its battery ? ( not just the cabin ) ,
innrain wrote: » Tesla 100%. 6-8 chargers at one site Ionity 99% 4 chargers, some times ICEd Ecars karma dictates 1 charger.at most sites. They started adding the second charger at some sites and in the future will have as many as 4.
Black_Knight wrote: » True True Technically true, but when you consider a 290km motorway journey when your range is nearly enough to do it without stopping, you'd have lots of ecars charge points to choose from. Even if they were all single bay sites the chances of each one being in use as you pass them are slim. What's the route?
Professor Moriarty wrote: » My route is 90% on the Dublin-Cork motorway.
Black_Knight wrote: » Technically true, but when you consider a 290km motorway journey when your range is nearly enough to do it without stopping, you'd have lots of ecars charge points to choose from. Even if they were all single bay sites the chances of each one being in use as you pass them are slim.
innrain wrote: » I didn't want to venture a probable number to find the ecars chargers empty just because of the single point of failure design. And don't get me wrong I charge only on the public network and in August alone a drove 5k km and it more than doable but if you want to do a parallel to the ICE drive multi-charger sites are your natural choice. An example Dublin - Parknasilla (Co Kerry). Took M7 -Killarney because of the scenic drive. ABR suggests Newcastle as the only charging (40mins) required to get to destination with 30- 40% as there is no destination charger. I'm not choosing that because is a very busy spot in a small petrol station and the next charger is in Killarney which again the same description. So I chose Birdhill because it has 2 chargers although they are free and that trims the chances of being empty. Funny enough Newcastle was in use when I passed by and Killarney went offline 10 mins before passing it. If you're driving alone in the car you can't check the status of the charger so you have to leave the motorway just to see if you can charge. It will be nice if they will have public APIs or google/apple car functions to just ask "Hey Google is any charger @ecar site near me empty at the moment?" or even better "Hey Google what are the chances of an empty charger when I approach this service station". But probably would be better just to install >4 chargers and we will have 99% chance of being free so no more questions would be needed. Food for thought ref ecars-stats
((Rapids * 1.0) + (22kW * 0.25) / Distance) * 100
ELM327 wrote: » The coverage of the island is now pretty universal. The only issue is still SPOF. (1 charger per site).
MJohnston wrote: » Here's my very rough summary of the charging capabilities of the major intercity routes on the island of Ireland: I'm including any non-Tesla charger that's online on the main route, or about 1 or 2km offline. Tried not to include any that are in train stations or wherever there wouldn't be easy access. Also only including one set of chargers per direction where there's an Applegreen or Ionity set on each side of a motorway. Also not including what's available in the cities themselves. Score is: ((Rapids * 1.0) + (22kW * 0.25) / Distance) * 100
slave1 wrote: » Ah, NorthWest is brutal
Cyrus wrote: » just as an FYI when went parknasilla in the summer i was able to use a granny charger whenever i wanted, there were outdoor plugs at the woodland villas.
innrain wrote: » Also in my thinking the multi-charger sites should have a higher weighting constant.
Kramer wrote: » This. Take the M7 towards Limerick, south of Portlaoise. Two chargers, Roscrea & Nenagh, are several kilometres off the motorway. Detouring to Roscrea would take close to 10 minutes & if it was ICE'd, or in use, you'd waste both time & range driving to it. The exact same in Nenagh. So if the only service area charger (Moneygall) was occupied, you'd be off driving around like a fool.A hub, even two units, at the Moneygall location would be better than the three on that stretch now, as they are all single units, single point of failure.
ELM327 wrote: » That specific moneygall location is supply limited to about 40kW peak across the charger. EG if AC and DC are in use both get about 20.
Black_Knight wrote: » Is that shareable on drive? Be a nice one for the new chargers sticky thread.
innrain wrote: » Very nice way of ranking. Question about the 0.25 on the standards. How you come up with it? Is it any algorithm behind it? Also in my thinking the multi-charger sites should have a higher weighting constant. I will think of it more but my half baked idea is that if you have 1/3 chance to find the charger occupied and add another charger overnight the probability does not halves to 1/6 but drops as 1/3 x 1/3 = 1/9. So n chargers would have 1/(3^n).
ELM327 wrote: » Not great but hardly brutal!
graememk wrote: » If you take out the ones at lifford, one near omagh (mellon country inn) and the one just outside enniskillen a big hole appears... (As they are chademo only (and 22kw ac) )