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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

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The comparison was silly. Walsh could be argued as the worst of those three and Mayo sacrificed their best player on Saturday to follow him everywhere. If Walsh jumped into the first row of concrete benches around the edge, Keegan would've hopped in beside him. Hardly conductive to getting easy space and ball

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Sebastian Dangerfield

PARlance wrote: »

Michael Murphy often gets brought up whenever Aidan has a poor game... or if we lose and Aidan doesn't shine.

All I can say is that I hope Aidan never has a game like Murphy did yesterday. For a player of his stature, he was completely anonymous and was went hiding when needed.

The odd time he came out of hiding, he did very little, acting as some sort of playmaker (being very generous) on the half way line. An injury time goal could have rescued it for him and Donegal but it wouldn't have been deserved on both counts.

Time after time when Donegal fall short, he is out around his own 45 miles away from where he can do damage. I don't think its a case of him hiding or shirking responsibility, but repeatedly letting him wander and not play in his best position has stopped them adding to the AI they won in 2012, in my opinion.

PARlance

Michael Murphy often gets brought up whenever Aidan has a poor game... or if we lose and Aidan doesn't shine.

All I can say is that I hope Aidan never has a game like Murphy did yesterday. For a player of his stature, he was completely anonymous and was went hiding when needed.

The odd time he came out of hiding, he did very little, acting as some sort of playmaker (being very generous) on the half way line. An injury time goal could have rescued it for him and Donegal but it wouldn't have been deserved on both counts.

PressRun

Anyways, after all the excitement of today, it's good to look forward to the semifinal. Be good to play Tipp again. Who will pick up Quinlivan and Sweeney, do you reckon? Will need someone to rein in O'Riordan too. I reckon they'll probably go long a lot on the kickout, so we'd want to be competing well there.

km79

I’ve said this many times
We are blessed and cursed to have had two keepers of their ability at the same time
It lead to too much ****ehawking and pressure
If it has just been accepted Clarke was number one despite his kickouts and Robbie was number two only to come in when Clarke was unavailable we would have been better off
It really should not have been a debate after Rochfords switch for the replay
He learned from it but Horan went backwards on it imo

PressRun

happyoutscan wrote: »

For me Clarke is the best shot stopper in the country. Maybe Im too old fashioned, but it is that and a presence under the highball that I want my keeper to have.

Such a shame though that his kicking game is lacking. Hard to work on it, you either have it or you dont.

I think that is an old fashioned view in this day and age, tbh. I would be very concerned about Clarke going into any game. However, this year I am also concerned about our midfield. I think there's a disaster waiting to happen there.

wirelessdude01

km79 wrote: »

But he is superior to the alternative In every other way whose kickouts also implode under Any kind of pressure .
We do remember last year right ?

And we are back. A good auld keeper debate

Ahh now you are hardly blaming the 12min implosion on Robbbie?

That is squarely on Horan and his game management.

WesternZulu

km79 wrote: »

But he is superior to the alternative In every other way whose kickouts also implode under Any kind of pressure .
We do remember last year right ?

And we are back. A good auld keeper debate

I'm not arguing that he's not better than what's already out there for us but the other poster stated that he would have Clarke any day ahead of a keeper like Patton.

Personally if we had a keeper with the skillset of Patten then I'd have him in the Mayo team all day long.

happyoutscan

For me Clarke is the best shot stopper in the country. Maybe Im too old fashioned, but it is that and a presence under the highball that I want my keeper to have.

Such a shame though that his kicking game is lacking. Hard to work on it, you either have it or you dont.

km79

WesternZulu wrote: »

But when Clarke implodes he is likely to give away 3-4 points directly from misplaced kickouts. The effect on the scoreboard is the same.

On a good day he's still liable to give away one or two scores. He's a good keeper but kickouts in the modern game is crucial and he's no where near what he ideally should be.

But he is superior to the alternative In every other way whose kickouts also implode under Any kind of pressure .
We do remember last year right ?

And we are back. A good auld keeper debate

WesternZulu

km79 wrote: »

We are so lucky to have Clarke under a high ball
He will be appreciated when he is gone
Pattens kickouts won’t be much use now will they !

But when Clarke implodes he is likely to give away 3-4 points directly from misplaced kickouts. The effect on the scoreboard is the same.

On a good day he's still liable to give away one or two scores. He's a good keeper but kickouts in the modern game is crucial and he's no where near what he ideally should be.

[Deleted User]

yop wrote: »

Today proves how mad this year is.

We weren't to get passed Rossies or Galway. Kerry were to be the only team to challenge the Dubs. Donegal had Ulster won when they beat Tyrone and were to give the Dubs a good game.

Complacency in any sport is fatal. We need to be very very wary in 2 weeks and if we can get through that injury free will be rank outsides against what you would think would be Dublin unless its 1948 again!

You don’t really believe that about Roscommon and Galway do you? On paper and man to man we are superior it was only a matter of getting the team to perform.

The difference with tipp and Cavan is today they had silverware to play for and long decades without Provençal titles. It’ll be a different story in the semis. Quote me on that if you want.

Tipp have achieved their goals for the year. They will quietly be celebrating and take the foot off the gas and even if they bring what they brought today we are more than a match for them.

Not focusing on the outcome of the other semi and being ready for what will likely be the line up on 19th of December is as bad as complacency. Dublin don’t have your attitude, that’s why they are consistent winners

Robson99

yop wrote: »

Robson :D:rolleyes:

You looking for me honey ?

yop

Today proves how mad this year is.

We weren't to get passed Rossies or Galway. Kerry were to be the only team to challenge the Dubs. Donegal had Ulster won when they beat Tyrone and were to give the Dubs a good game.

Complacency in any sport is fatal. We need to be very very wary in 2 weeks and if we can get through that injury free will be rank outsides against what you would think would be Dublin unless its 1948 again!

km79

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Look atmthe replay from behind the goal. He was in the 21 when he started back tracking. What the hell was doing there?

Getting ready to take his kickout
It’s a weapon don’t you know

wirelessdude01

km79 wrote: »

We are so lucky to have Clarke under a high ball
He will be appreciated when he is gone
Pattens kickouts won’t be much use now will they !

Look atmthe replay from behind the goal. He was in the 21 when he started back tracking. What the hell was doing there?

wirelessdude01

Some shock up north.

km79

We are so lucky to have Clarke under a high ball
He will be appreciated when he is gone
Pattens kickouts won’t be much use now will they !

yop

PressRun wrote: »

Who is saying we have a God given right to beat them?

Robson

:D:rolleyes:

yop

Mayo_fan wrote: »

I’m feeling good after seeing that,we should prepare well but nothing to fear.

I’d like to see us put a high score in the first half and put the match to bed and then do some experimentation to prepare for the Dublin / Donegal final in the 2nd half. Wide pitch will suit us and it’ll be the only game there before the final so we shouldn’t waste this opportunity

You're missing your "This could be our year" sign off there.

[Deleted User]

I’m feeling good after seeing that,we should prepare well but nothing to fear.

I’d like to see us put a high score in the first half and put the match to bed and then do some experimentation to prepare for the Dublin / Donegal final in the 2nd half. Wide pitch will suit us and it’ll be the only game there before the final so we shouldn’t waste this opportunity

PressRun

WesternZulu wrote: »

I don't think Mayo has any right to thing we've the God given right to beat Tipp. The worst thing we could do is underestimate them.

Remember Mayo is in transition, how will the younger players deal with being favourites and playing senior for the first time in Croker.

Who is saying we have a God given right to beat them?

Bunny Colvin

WesternZulu wrote: »

I'd be fearful that either team will be eaten alive by Dublin which could set them back.

I wouldn't. Ourselves or Tipp would be under no pressure going to play Dublin in an AI Final, everyone would be expecting a handy Dublin. For ourselves, it would be a great opportunity for the younger players to get that experience under their belt. Also, who knows, every footballer in Dublin might come down with covid and they'd have to forfeit the game.

WesternZulu

I'd be fearful that either team will be eaten alive by Dublin which could set them back.

C__MC

Cant see mayo losing
Barrett and Keegan and Durcan will stifle that tipp attack

Up front mayo are a far better running team than what cork have to offer

Mayo by 5-6

[Deleted User]

Sick of playing Semi Finals against Tipp

wirelessdude01

We struggled against Tipp both in Croker and Semple in the recent past. They have what I term 'x-factor' players who can produce those moments of magic. Very cohesive unit but what you have to look at is how they struggled for the first 18mins of the second half. Had a good 10mins and then struggled to hold on for the last 10mins. Matchups will be vital.

naughto

WesternZulu wrote: »

I don't think Mayo has any right to thing we've the God given right to beat Tipp. The worst thing we could do is underestimate them.

Remember Mayo is in transition, how will the younger players deal with being favourites and playing senior for the first time in Croker.

Dont be putting words in people's mouths any1 that knows anything about gaa know theres no handy game in crocker especially for a place in the all Ireland final

seligehgit

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

I think thats because of the 1.30 start - means they have lots of time to show it.

I believe the inference being made is that there was next to no coverage of Aidan O Shea collecting the Nestor Cup.

Totally understandable the amount of coverage today nonetheless

WesternZulu

I don't think Mayo has any right to thing we've the God given right to beat Tipp. The worst thing we could do is underestimate them.

Remember Mayo is in transition, how will the younger players deal with being favourites and playing senior for the first time in Croker.

TCDStudent1

yop wrote: »

Good win by Tipp. Cork had it won in their own heads like they did with us back in the AI QF before.

Tipp will give us a good solid game that is for sure. Expect it to be similar to the other games with fitness should be a key factor with the bench.

RTE giving the presentation plenty of air time.

I think thats because of the 1.30 start - means they have lots of time to show it.