hynesie08 wrote: » He hasn't enjoyed being pushed on things like timeliness, but how much of that was trump hollering about pre-election vaccines for all is debatable, so, to me at least, him coming right out and saying 2 vaccines will be rolled out before the end of the year is pretty definitive..
marno21 wrote: » 95 cases of infection observed in the 30,000 trial participants. 90 were in the placebo and 5 were in the mRNA-1273 group. 11 cases of severe Covid-19 were all in the placebo group. Excellent news. I had questioned this outfit given their operation vs others but this is an excellent result. Fingers crossed we hear from Oxford/AZ soon too and possibly have 3 vaccines for Christmas.
Klonker wrote: » Have Moderna mentioned how many of the 30,000 were giving the vaccine and how many a placebo? If its 50/50 thats still very encouraging and impressive but if if was 66/33 in favour of the vaccine that's even all the more impressive.
ShineOn7 wrote: » He'll be asked about HSE's planned rollout today by a journalist and he'll no doubt quickly change the subject
What we're forgetting in all of this great news is the high likelihood of the HSE making an absolute balls of this It's what they do
ShineOn7 wrote: » He'll be asked about HSE's planned rollout today by a journalist and he'll no doubt quickly change the subject What we're forgetting in all of this great news is the high likelihood of the HSE making an absolute balls of this It's what they do
ShineOn7 wrote: » All the more reason Pfizer's price should be skyrocketing though no? They've a proven pedigree. Moderna haven't
ixoy wrote: » I await the negative spin on this news from the media.
The head of the World Health Organization has said that a vaccine would not by itself stop the coronavirus pandemic. There have been more than 54 million cases of Covid-19 since it broke out in China last year and more than 1.3 million people have died. "A vaccine will complement the other tools we have, not replace them," director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said. "A vaccine on its own will not end the pandemic."
ixoy wrote: » RTE did their best when reporting about this to find a negativeURL="https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1116/1178442-coronavirus-vaccine/"]link[/URL: Couldn't just let people have that one article even.
Deenie78 wrote: » I looked at the HSE website and there does not seem to be a mention of any roles around this kind of planning either at an administrative level or any other (though I may have interpreted some roles wrong). I would have thought that they might be getting ramped up on this but maybe they are sourcing people that are already within the HSE?
When will Covid be over? In the space of a week, the positive results from Pfizer, Moderna and Russia have transformed our chances of ending the pandemic. Before the first results, the talk was of a vaccine that offered maybe 50% protection. Those expectations have been blown out of the water - not only are vaccines possible, they appear to be potent. The data so far also raise hopes that the other vaccines in development will be successful too, but now as one challenge draws to an ends, another begins. The logistical effort of actually vaccinating, potentially billions of people, around the world is gargantuan. Some experts have claimed normality by spring, others by next winter, others still think there is a long journey ahead. The answer will depend on how quickly countries can get this "hope in a vial" into the arms of people.
ixoy wrote: » Contrast RTE's with BBC's article URL="https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54902908"]link[/URL:
This first interim analysis was based on 95 cases, of which 90 cases of COVID-19 were observed in the placebo group versus 5 cases observed in the mRNA-1273 group, resulting in a point estimate of vaccine efficacy of 94.5% (p <0.0001). A secondary endpoint analyzed severe cases of COVID-19 and included 11 severe cases (as defined in the study protocol) in this first interim analysis. All 11 cases occurred in the placebo group and none in the mRNA-1273 vaccinated group.
Gael23 wrote: » Will the HSE not take the Pfizer one now?
Russman wrote: » I was actually thinking of that. Hopefully they will of course, but I could easily see a scenario where some story about "the difficult logistics mean its better for us to wait for a different vaccine that will be easier to distribute bla, bla........" was put forward. Maybe I'm being too harsh on them.
Micky 32 wrote: » The WHO can’t even make up their minds on how many worldwide infections there were. One minute they say up to 780 million and now it’s 54 million.
Akabusi wrote: » I think the at risk groups will get whatever vaccine becomes available first no matter how difficult it is to distribute it. Anything else just wouldn't be acceptable to the public. It is a good question though for the rest of us, they may decide to wait for an easier to distribute vaccine. I'm sure that would be accepted as long as it is done before next winter.
Gael23 wrote: » Well good luck to them trying to enforce restrictions when they are preventing people getting a vaccine
ixoy wrote: » RTE did their best when reporting about this to find a negative Couldn't just let people have that one article even.
