Bowie wrote: » The comment stated government had nothing to do with Debenhams and asked what the connection was. I explained the connection between Varadkar and Debenhams. LV chimed in off his own back to be critical of the workers. Your take on the situation does not dispute my comment or the context in responding to the other poster's query.There was money there. If LV took it upon himself to chime in, with the lie Debenhams had no assets/money, he should have done so on behalf of the workers while apologising for not tackling the advice given after the Clery's scandal.
blanch152 wrote: » Eh, actually, my link supports the view that there wasn't money there. The Debenhams workers were seeking to take the money due to the Irish taxpayer. So how could Leo have lied? "The workers are also calling on the Government to waive some €20 million owed to Revenue and local authorities through the liquidation process, so it can be used to boost workers’ redundancy packages."
“And their expected turnover is €2bn this year. "We know that the stock in the Patrick Street store alone is valued at €4.9m. Stock in all 11 Debenhams Irish stores is conservatively valued at €25m. “But it would cost €10m to pay us all the agreed two weeks' redundancy package." Link
LV took it upon himself to chime in, with the lie Debenhams had no assets/money, he should have done so on behalf of the workers while apologising for not tackling the advice given after the Clery's scandal.
Bowie wrote: » Again, context. The poster stated government had nothing to do with Debenhams and wanted to know what the connection was. Now you having a gripe against the workers does not dispute my response to said poster.
blanch152 wrote: » I see now. However, a government Minister expressing a view on an issue does not mean that the Government has anything to do with it. He is entitled to have a view, you are entitled to disagree with his view, but that does not mean he lied.
Cluedo Monopoly wrote: » What have you got for us next FFG?
joeguevara wrote: » It says its the fault of the Office of Public Works.
Floppybits wrote: » Well there is the Woulfe thing now and there is something lurking in the background on Heather Humphries interfering in a court case. Plus now that FFG have basically signed off on it being ok to leak confidential documents god knows what someone will leak, the thing is will the media run with it.
Muahahaha wrote: » Ive never seen a government so consistently on the racks, they have been just lurching from one scandal to the next since they took office.
Solutionking wrote: » I think a few people here don't actually understand what the government do. A lot of comments about Debenhams and all incorrect. I am talking about the government now, not a TD. A few people on here seem to think a single TD is the government. Debenhams staff have paid money for year to Mandate, a union if you could call it that. As soon as any issue what do Mandate do? well they run to the government. So why don't Mandate just tell the staff to pay direct to the government in extra tax instead of wasting it by giving it to them? The workers should be after Mandate, the best Mandate could come up with was "Mandate General Secretary John Douglas reminds the minister that there will be a significant cost to the State in redundancy and welfare payments if the staff are made redundant". Now if I was paying to a union and I read that I would cancel all payments and look for a refund. How useless are they? KPMG are liquidators and why is Mandate not working with them? If people are mad at anyone here it should be Mandate. My suggestion, if anyone is paying into these "unions" tell them to f**k right off and just point them to the carry on of Mandate for the reason why
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Good post King, briefly what’s happening here is that folk, and this is important, immediately a dispute springs up, the Alphabets, the Shinners, the ‘Sit back and draw the wedges’ brigade start appearing on pickets and using the dispute: A..to get publicity for themselves...nothing else B.. to try and involve the Govt. and mislead those in dispute. We have seen them all on the picket lines especially in Cork N C. Sometimes, unfortunately,reality must be faced. The Govt. cant fix everything.
Bowie wrote: » Well allow me to elaborate further. Varadkar was associated with Debenhams in a comment and a poster said Debenhams had nothing to do with government and asked what the connection was. Varadkar is currently in government and made an incorrect statement as explained. As with much of what Varakar does, he was speaking for himself with no regard for the government view, however he wasn't being interviewed as private citizen Varadkar either.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Ah come on now Bren. We all know the government has to hold people's hand from cradle to grave with money, a gaff, a lovely pension and all the trimmings life entitles you too. Sure isn't that what governments are for? Well in Ireland it seems so....
Nevin Parsnipp wrote: » Indeed it is Dude a nice house near the Ma and a big 46 inch sputterin in the corner. Income related rent which of course you don't bother to pay and all sorts of woke do gooders and tree huggers to prevent you getting evicted. Bro Kevin for the Xmas goodies (he don't judge) and a tired GP gettin you the dissabilithy just to get rid of you. Attend a few peaceful demos if you get bored ..the transphort is free.... and free legals if you tangle with the polis. Not a bad life ...innit ?
smurgen wrote: » I wonder what twists and turn you have to take to resort to posting stuff like this online? Hardly the postings of a happy or content person.
blanch152 wrote: » A lot of anger this morning around the Forum. Leo sailed through last night, despite all the predictions of him being gone. The forecasts of his demise appear to have been overblown after all. Chas and Smith were patsies used by Cosgrave in a personal vendetta against O'Toole. Cosgrave succeeded in what he wanted - getting revenge on O'Toole whose career outside of being a GP is destroyed. Getting a hit on Varadkar for the Government refusing to line his pockets by paying for the Web Summit was the icing on the cake, the real beef was with O'Toole.
FrancieBrady wrote: » So Leo didn't do what he admitted to and caused a vote of No Confidence in him? I suppose it was a vendetta against Simon that brought down the last government too? Conspiracies everywhere this AM, despite the fact the Tanaiste admitted the wrongdoing and still has to face an investigation to decide if it was a crime or not. Big win alright.
Nevin Parsnipp wrote: » Very happy and content my good friend ! Would be even more so .....if I didn't have to pay for the rampant sh1tefcuckery outlined in my post. Why don't you address the points in the post instead of resorting to personal attack ?
blanch152 wrote: » You mean that a frivolous complaint made to the Gardai hasn't been processed and rejected yet?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Are you preempting a Garda investigation? How do you know what the Gardai are doing about it? Have they commented on an ongoing case? Highly unusual that they would do that. SIPO have also a complaint to review and decide on. You know that SIPO that you are imploring and extolling the 'concerns' of on another thread?
blanch152 wrote: » Yeah, I do know, but the Official Secrets Act has been explained in full on these threads several times (and even the Village legal advice admits at the end to several reasons why no crime was committed) , the Prevention of Corruption Act was also dismissed early on. So, yes, likely to be dismissed as frivilous, or solved following a phone conversation or two to establish no crime was committed. The SIPO complaint was one made by Paul Murphy, think he makes a few of them every year, good publicity, but nothing ever comes of them. Most that will be found is a minor breach of a code of conduct, but even that is a stretch. I do admire the desperate search for straws to cling to.
FrancieBrady wrote: » That's just more handwaving away.
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