El Sueño wrote: » You'd think the HSE would let us know of their vaccine rollout plan. The UK government have been talking about theirs for months at this stage. They've kept the public up to date with everything. Is it that much to ask for a bit of communication on this from our government?
tobefrank321 wrote: » The ideal scenario in my opinion is that Pfizer would bypass the HSE and work directly with companies like Boots who have experience administrating vaccines. You just know somewhere along the line the HSE are going to screw this up.
brick tamland wrote: » That'd be a bigger disaster IMO. Imagine everyone trying to call/get into their local pharmacy to get an appointment for a vaccination. Its hard to get an appointment normally this time of year for a flu vaccine and I imagine the take up on these is about 5% We need a national plan, a set up like the testing centers were in March/April where the government took over local GAA clubs and the likes. as well as Mobile teams to visit hospitals and Nursing homes ect. Id like to think training should be already underway to have enough staff to administer the vaccine as well as having the administration in place to contact people and make appointments ect.
ixoy wrote: » Has any journalist asked them about the logistics of a national vaccine rollout plan? Regardless of whether it's Pfizer or not, the logistics themselves will likely be broadly similar with the temperature control the primary difference. So an "we're waiting to see" answer should be unacceptable - it should be under proper planning by now for a variety of different possibilities.
stephenjmcd wrote: » They tried yesterday, all they got was advance planning is underway and when we're ready to make the detail public we will. Wouldn't expand further
ixoy wrote: » Hmm, I'd have little faith there. Probably set up another working group, appoint a slew of highly paid managers, and produce a paper six months from now. Government planning in many areas like this can be poor - look, for example, at how Brexit might impact ports due to the logistics involved.
hmmm wrote: » You don't live in this country, so personally I don't find your description of people running the country as "scum" to be welcome.
seamie78 wrote: » well seeing as you live in Italy and are completely Italian we are talking about different politics, economy and health service, maybe you should address your concerns on the Italian version of boards. I must take this time to compliment your use of hiberno english
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » i work in the hse and have done in the office throughout covid, they don't even tell us anything, and it took till june before we even got hand sanitizer, and a month ago we got screens ! The truth is they don't care
El Weirdo wrote: » I also work for the HSE .
El Weirdo wrote: » I also work for the HSE and we got hand sanitizer before I'd say half the people commenting on this thread even knew what Covid 19 was.
ixoy wrote: » When was that out of curiosity? Certainly by March, I know civil service offices had their sanitiser.
CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: » They explained in yesterdays press conference that it is under planning. They can't comment as there are differing considerations based on which vaccine, how many vaccines are available (theres an EU commission planning note on differing vaccines for different groups) etc. So basically they said there is a group doing the planning but they wont publish anything as it depends.
tobefrank321 wrote: » I think you could be agnostic on what vaccine to use but still have some advanced plans in place. We know nursing homes have to be high priority - if it works on residents or not - staff would be very high priority. After that frontline medical staff to prevent hospitals and staff being overwhelmed going into the future. Then elderly non nursing home residents. The sooner we have key groups vaccinated the sooner life can return to normality. You'd hope the current lockdown is the last one, even if they have to extend it to early January - most people would accept this, if there was a proper vaccine rollout program happening at the same time.
lbj666 wrote: » Jan/Feb lockdown with a concrete vaccine roll out plan in place and possibly jabs commencing is a way easier sell than continuing the current one.
MintyMagnum wrote: » How many over 85yr olds do we have in the country does anyone know?
People aged 85 and over represent 1.4% of population and use 13.5% of inpatient beds.
Russman wrote: » No idea if the numbers above are accurate, just trying to get a sense of potential scale.
Russman wrote: » So, for the sake of argument, assuming this vaccine gets authorised, what’s a realistic number for the amount of doses the EU would get out of the 50m the Pfizer say they’ll have this year ? Would they get 20m (40%) ? That’d give us in Ireland around 200k doses this year, so 100k people could be vaccinated. Pfizer say they’ll have 1.3BN doses next year, so let’s call it 100m per month. Again, if the EU got 40% that’s 40m, with 400k for Ireland, allowing 200k people to get it. Six months worth of that and you’re starting to put a big hole in the problem. Plus if Oxford and any of the others came through in similar numbers you’d have to think some semblance of normality by the summer. But, vaccinating between one hundred and three hundred thousand people per month is massive undertaking, not too dissimilar to the amount of testing we’re doing. I think they’ll definitely need the defence forces to roll it out. No idea if the numbers above are accurate, just trying to get a sense of potential scale.
Russman wrote: » So, for the sake of argument, assuming this vaccine gets authorised, what’s a realistic number for the amount of doses the EU would get out of the 50m the Pfizer say they’ll have this year ? Would they get 20m (40%) ? That’d give us in Ireland around 200k doses this year, so 100k people could be vaccinated.
hmmm wrote: » I'm not sure of the manufacturing capacity, but the Pfizer CEO on CNN said they had 3 plants in the US manufacturing "for America", and the plant in Belgium is for "the rest of the world".Italy has said they will get the Pfizer vaccine beginning January 20 2021. So not before the end of the year & they are part of the EU contract. The US and UK had also signed deals with Pfizer before the EU, you'd assume they would be first to get deliveries. It'd be a lovely gesture if in return for the Irish passports after Brexit our new UK brethren could send a support package of tea and vaccines.
