maccored wrote: » he was a member of the sf ard chomhairle - so yes, it was perfectly acceptable to share that information. SF are part of the executive, the ard chomhairle is part of SF. Not hard logic to follow.
mynamejeff wrote: » and the army council ? where do they slot in the chain of command ?
mynamejeff wrote: » the problem with lying is that if you do it all the time , people will assume that everything you say is a lie there is no army council , Gerry was never in the ira , sf have no connection to organised crime and on and on and on
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Next thing they will try to tell you that large scale smuggling and diesel washing isn’t going on.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Can you link to the data on this? You say it is large scale, shouldn't be hard to give us the source of your information.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Why would they require an Army COuncil for an organisation commtited to exclusively democratic means Jeff? Are you saying the governments have been hoodwinked by the Monitoring agencies? Do explain yourself for once.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Hold on Francie till I go on to the ‘Smuggling and Diesel Washing NI.co .uk ‘ site. I’m sure these lads put all their activities on line.;)
grayzer75 wrote: » The real problem is living in the past and not moving on with the times. All you comments about army councils etc are so last century so just leave it there.
mynamejeff wrote: » "On 20 October 2015, the Assessment on Paramilitary Groups in Northern Ireland, commissioned by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland on the structure, role and purpose of paramilitary organisations reported the structures of the IRA remain in existence "
The IMC’s report concluded that the IRA’s so-called military departments had been disbanded and its former terrorist capability had been lost. In addition, its army council was by conscious decision being allowed to fall into disuse. “PIRA [the Provisional IRA] had in these ways completely relinquished the leadership and other structures appropriate to a time of conflict,” it found. While a small number of former IRA members had given assistance to dissident republicans, it said this was not surprising following the dissolution of organisation’s structures. On the issue of leadership, it found that in addition to “maintaining its clear stance against all forms of terrorist activity and involvement of members in crime”, the leadership continued in more specific ways to demonstrate its commitment to peaceful means.
joeguevara wrote: » https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/seven-arrested-in-psni-crackdown-on-money-laundering-crime-gang-1.4147016?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fseven-arrested-in-psni-crackdown-on-money-laundering-crime-gang-1.4147016https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30976759.html
mynamejeff wrote: » their victims have a way of holding onto things especially when there was no justice grayzer that's legacy sf ira are very poor at dealing with and they keep popping up the Quinns Maria Cahill etc , until they deal with these people property they will never go away
FrancieBrady wrote: » So? We know it goes on. How 'large scale' is it, was the question.
joeguevara wrote: » Well the fact that in one bust it centred around 215 million operation. An interesting scholar article discusses it https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1057610X.2019.1678878?scroll=top&needAccess=true&journalCode=uter20 here and outlines the scale of it.
Fuel fraud costs the UK taxpayer hundreds of millions of pounds in lost revenue every year. Northern Ireland alone is estimated to have lost £70 million in 2009-10. Only five years ago this figure was as high as £250 million,
HMRC said in 2016-17, the illicit market for diesel in Northern Ireland resulted in an estimated loss of £30m in duty and a further £10m in VAT, giving a total loss of £40m.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » At least 50 properties and 200 employees. Big party. Lot of money washing around......
FrancieBrady wrote: » Fuel Fraud was at 250 million in 2004https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201012/cmselect/cmniaf/1504/1504.pdf It was reckoned to be 40 million last year.https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-46844898 A diminishing problem the data suggests.
mynamejeff wrote: » So as long as one of the parts of the criminality that your party are directly involved with and profit from is diminishing its ok ?
joeguevara wrote: » Can I ask a question. Why is a senior sinn fein party member and solicitor acting on behalf of Daniel Kinahan?
JohnnyFlash wrote: » https://twitter.com/sjamcbride/status/1326175299361513474?s=21 The sort of clear, no nonsense, decisive governance we have come to expect from SF and the DUP.
grayzer75 wrote: » The IRA were willing to sign up to a Truth Commission but the Brits won't sign up for some reason (must have something to hide) so the full truth will never come out which is a pity for the victims and their families.
blanch152 wrote: » Nothing stopping a unilateral Truth Commission or one restricted to Northern Ireland actors. Perhaps the Stormont Executive could provide for one is Sinn Fein not willing to do it themselves.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I have been saying it for years. A failed state that cannot govern itself due to the problems created by a ridiculous partition. Would you agree Johnny?
