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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

Quin_Dub

Continuation thread from here

All existing rules still stand.

Everyone will want to be active in this thread over the next few days , but there will be zero tolerance for Forum rule breaches.

Keep it Sensible , Civil and Polite please.

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Graham

salmocab wrote: »

Or alternatively the people of America decided to elect someone else.

sounds much more plausible to me.

ancapailldorcha

Dismissing the result and alleging illegal activity without a source is trolling. Post deleted.

TomOnBoard

Quin_Dub wrote: »

I hear what you are saying , I just think that they'd need to have a degree of justification relative the the scatter-gun approach from Trump - Perhaps saying "It's less than 500 votes , we should double-check" is enough though

Georgia law says if the gap is less than 0.5% of total votes cast, then a re-count is permissible. Assuming a 5 million vote total, that puts a gap of less than 25,000 into re-count territory.

V8 Interceptor

salmocab wrote: »

There has been ongoing warnings on that thread with regard to people making that unfounded claim.

But why?

(All the other insults labelled against Trump - crazy, lunatic, insane etc - notwithstanding)

Irish Praetorian wrote: »

I don't understand, do you mean why would one not want to come with their facts and figures straight? Well primarily because one might end up like so many others have; coming in, spouting off a bunch of half truths, empty cliches and plain falsehoods, ended up thoroughly roasted by a forum membership not willing to broach any nonsense, and then proclaiming oppression and suppression when they end up leaving or banned.

I call this process the Brexiteer progression.

But that's just your opinion. I think the President was a better candidate than Biden. You seem to be saying that alone is grounds for banning?

I don't understand the Brexiteer reference.

Jo jo the eskimo

More or less the same count has been on all the screens for 2 or 3 days saying the same story over and over again.

Could fox news not roll someone out, someone sympathetic to their cause. To tell em it ain't all that bad.
They can do the rallies, so no need to throw away the hats and all the gear.
If they have the rallies they still have the "lock um up" chants
There's also the youtube videos with trump as a superhero, no real reason to stop them, they look like there great fun

They can still even do the whole winding up the libs thing they love that.
All is far from lost

Brussels Sprout

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Looking at that Github site, Trump has been on the brink of the threshold required to flip Arizona in the most recent vote bundles, but with 227,000 votes remaining, some of those outstanding could yet slow him down:

https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html

That's a great resource thanks. Just gonna hit F5 on that for the rest of the night.

TomOnBoard

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

That's a great resource thanks. Just gonna hit F5 on that for the rest of the night.

Yeah, that's very interesting. Thanks. However, it assumes State-wide spread of each block, whereas individual counties actually vary quite dramatically.

paul71

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election_recount_in_Florida#/media/File:Butterfly_Ballot,_Florida_2000_(large).jpg

The only time there has ever been any issue with count errors that I know of was because of the design of this ballot paper in Florida in 2000. 2 sided with perforation marks in the middle.

Most of the time they only find 100 or 200 in polls of 5 or 6 million people.

First past the post simply does not lend itself to errors unless you have a badly designed ballot paper like the above.

V8 Interceptor

One of the USPS officials in Pennsylvania has just agreed to go on the record and is willing to testify under oath to the backdating of ballots.

They will be releasing his interview imminently.

Water John

The amount of crap with many of these court cases going on behind the scenes. The lady form AZ in charge of the count was saying how GOP using a court case to slow down the counting.

paul71

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

One of the USPS officials in Pennsylvania has just agreed to go on the record and is willing to testify under oath to the backdating of ballots.

They will be releasing his interview imminently.

Link please

The Iron Giant

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

One of the USPS officials in Pennsylvania has just agreed to go on the record and is willing to testify under oath to the backdating of ballots.

They will be releasing his interview imminently.

Yeah. Sourced by the far-right Project Veritas. Want to buy some beans?

Inquitus

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

One of the USPS officials in Pennsylvania has just agreed to go on the record and is willing to testify under oath to the backdating of ballots.

They will be releasing his interview imminently.

Source?

westdublin

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

One of the USPS officials in Pennsylvania has just agreed to go on the record and is willing to testify under oath to the backdating of ballots.

They will be releasing his interview imminently.

Who will be releasing his interview, can you post a link to the story ?

StringerBell

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

But why?

(All the other insults labelled against Trump - crazy, lunatic, insane etc - notwithstanding)

But that's just your opinion. I think the President was a better candidate than Biden. You seem to be saying that alone is grounds for banning?

I don't understand the Brexiteer reference.

Lets kinda forget about the other things and other forums and what can be said and not. You said you wanted someone to discuss trump, the floor is your.

Your a trump supporter, you think he was a better candidate and I assume your disappointed he's beat.

What was it you liked about him and what was it that made him a better candidate than Biden? I don't think its hard to answer and discuss this without resorting to insulting either of them or going into wild conspiracy theory land is it?

What did you like about trump and his presidency?

Inquitus

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Yeah. Sourced by the far-right Project Veritas. Want to buy some beans?

Ok so its more of a sauce than a source, do the magic beans take me to the Giant's castle?

The Iron Giant

paul71 wrote: »

Link please

Project Veritas are claiming to have sourced the insider. So, ya know....

No.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

The vote differential in PA is now 14,733. Am I right in saying that CNN are calling this when it reaches 15,000?

paul71

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

One of the USPS officials in Pennsylvania has just agreed to go on the record and is willing to testify under oath to the backdating of ballots.

They will be releasing his interview imminently.

The source for that is James O'Keefe.

He is a convicted criminal.

He is a proven Liar.

He has lost numerous lawsuits for publishing lies.

He backed the author of the book that said the Sandy hook school shootings were a hoax.

He receives money from the Trump campaign.

V8 Interceptor

StringerBell wrote: »

Lets kinda forget about the other things and other forums and what can be said and not. You said you wanted someone to discuss trump, the floor is your. Your a trump supporter, you think he was a better candidate and I assume your disappointed he's beat. What was it you liked about him and what was it that made him a better candidate than Biden? I don't think its hard to answer and discuss this without resorting to insulting either of them or going into wild conspiracy theory land is it?

What did you like about trump and his presidency?

There have been several grotesque and perverse attempts to oust Trump. From a counterfeit Russian hoax to spurious impeachment efforts over routine phone calls. Deep state figures have been outspoken and ferocious in their denunciation of Trump - John Brennan being a case in point. Trump's "American First" philosophy contradicts globalism in a fundamental way . And these are regime change experts. The idea that they'd suddenly conduct an appropriate election is incredulous.

bennyl10

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

One of the USPS officials in Pennsylvania has just agreed to go on the record and is willing to testify under oath to the backdating of ballots.

They will be releasing his interview imminently.

Utter BS like this is why you’ve been called on things

It’s not that “you suppor trump”

It’s that you’re pushing conspiracy theories and pushing lies to futher your agenda

Akabusi

StringerBell wrote: »

Lets kinda forget about the other things and other forums and what can be said and not. You said you wanted someone to discuss trump, the floor is your.

Your a trump supporter, you think he was a better candidate and I assume your disappointed he's beat.

What was it you liked about him and what was it that made him a better candidate than Biden? I don't think its hard to answer and discuss this without resorting to insulting either of them or going into wild conspiracy theory land is it?

What did you like about trump and his presidency?

Please don't, I see there is a Trump appreciation thread where he could wax lyrical about how good he is

Water John

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

The vote differential in PA is now 14,733. Am I right in saying that CNN are calling this when it reaches 15,000?

David Challian spoke on this process of Declaring a projection on a state. Their is a special team of statiticians who make the call but didn't hear any number.
It's a very high bar they use.

jrosen

It’s actually ridiculously slow

V8 Interceptor

bennyl10 wrote: »

Utter BS like this is why you’ve been called on things It’s not that “you suppor trump”

It’s that you’re pushing conspiracy theories and pushing lies to futher your agenda

I don't mind being called on things, that's what it's about. I have no 'agenda' other than an Irish person who liked the outgoing President.

paul71 wrote: »

Link please

Apparently he's going to speak. I'll link it up if/when he does.

StringerBell

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

There have been several grotesque and perverse attempts to oust Trump. From a counterfeit Russian hoax to spurious impeachment efforts over routine phone calls. Deep state figures have been outspoken and ferocious in their denunciation of Trump - John Brennan being a case in point. Trump's "American First" philosophy contradicts globalism in a fundamental way . And these are regime change experts. The idea that they'd suddenly conduct an appropriate election is incredulous.

I don't understand, I said what did you like about trump and his Presidency? What makes him a better candidate than Biden?

Zak Flaps

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

The vote differential in PA is now 14,733. Am I right in saying that CNN are calling this when it reaches 15,000?

Hi guys. New to American politics but enjoying the ride.
One thing I see posted here often concerns when or if a Network "calls it".
Is there an importance or significance to this?

8-10

jrosen wrote: »

It’s actually ridiculously slow

Votes that haven't yet arrived in some of these states can still be counted. Patience, this is how it is in a close race.

Irish Praetorian

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

But that's just your opinion. I think the President was a better candidate than Biden. You seem to be saying that alone is grounds for banning?

I don't understand the Brexiteer reference.

For having that opinion? Certainly not. It's an opinion different from my own but its yours, you're being polite about it, no issue.

The problem is that what tends to happen (as with Brexit debates) is that people attempt to defend the opinion you hold not with facts and figures, but with things like naked falsehoods (the election was rigged), vapid cliches (ya'll have orange man derangement syndrome) or a very selective view of the facts (for example, claiming credit for a 30% GDP growth rate, ignoring the whole pandemic recession). There is plenty of good ground to make a case for Trump's policy, but most people will not do it.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Zak Flaps wrote: »

Hi guys. New to American politics but enjoying the ride.
One thing I see posted here often concerns when or if a Network "calls it".
Is there an importance or significance to this?

Correct phrasing is projecting it I believe, and that's when experts believe the voting differential cannot be overturned.