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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

Quin_Dub

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marno21

everlast75 wrote: »

CNN are saying that if Biden gets PA he has won.

Just by way of stark contrast, I've linked George Bush Snr's concession speech, the contrast being Trump rage tweeting, launching frivolous law suits and inciting violence...

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1324422303145512960?s=19

Yes, but George HW Bush respected his country and its institutions.

If Biden had won 413-125 (the most realistic method he could have won every swing stage including FL/TX/IA/OH/NC + the ones he's in contention for), Trump would call it a fraud.

Trump was complaining that the 2016 election was rigged before it had taken place because he was expected to lose. Then he was complaining after the election because he didn't win the popular vote.

Anyone who expected him to gracefully concede was being really naive when you see the way he has behaved to date since he was elected.

rossie1977

Ironically it would be Clinton and Newt Gingrich/rise of FOX News that we would see the beginning of the ultra partisanship on the Republican side that continues to this day.

AllForIt

everlast75 wrote: »

CNN are saying that if Biden gets PA he has won.

Just by way of stark contrast, I've linked George Bush Snr's concession speech, the contrast being Trump rage tweeting, launching frivolous law suits and inciting violence...

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1324422303145512960?s=19

Bill Clinton got 370 electoral votes. And there was no twitter back then

Itssoeasy

So just watching CNN and they seem to suggesting that Pennsylvania may be called today. I know there is one county not counting today but they seem to be suggesting that Biden’s eventual lead may be enough to call the state for joe Biden.

Water John

Diff in PA is now less than 109K

everlast75

CNN are saying that if Biden gets PA he has won.

Just by way of stark contrast, I've linked George Bush Snr's concession speech, the contrast being Trump rage tweeting, launching frivolous law suits and inciting violence...

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1324422303145512960?s=19

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

pixelburp wrote: »

Isn't that the county of the famous sheriff Joe Arpaio? He seemed aggressively pro Trump, but is there a sense of what the county's overall leanings might be?

48.6% voted Trump there in 2016.
47.2% voted Trump in 2020 of already tallied votes.

On a slightly related note 55.2% voted McCain in 2016.

Trump needs closer to 55% iirc.

rossie1977

pixelburp wrote: »

Isn't that the county of the famous sheriff Joe Arpaio? He seemed aggressively pro Trump, but is there a sense of what the county's overall leanings might be?

That's Phoenix metro so pretty much 50/50 overall but if its early voting or mail Biden will have edge you would think.

Itssoeasy

It seems that joe Biden and Kamala Harris are having a briefing on the coronavirus. That’s a stark difference to trump. Now Biden may be doing it to show the difference between himself and trump. But I think it’s that he doesn’t dismiss this stuff out of hand because it’s not good. IF he becomes president it’s clear he’ll be better on that score.

ancapailldorcha

Mod: Twitter dumps deleted. Please do not just post tweets here.

The Iron Giant

Water John wrote: »

Yes Georgia is going the right direction for Biden. Not sure will he run out votes to be counted before he passes Trump?
I think Maricopa outstanding ballots will half the 13K lead.

Maricopa is in Arizona.

Water John

Yes Georgia is going the right direction for Biden. Not sure will he run out votes to be counted before he passes Trump?
I think Maricopa outstanding ballots will half the 13K lead.

The Iron Giant

pixelburp wrote: »

Isn't that the county of the famous sheriff Joe Arpaio? He seemed aggressively pro Trump, but is there a sense of what the county's overall leanings might be?

Democrat leaning. And it is significantly the largest county left to vote; larger than the rest of the outstanding counties combined.

pixelburp

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Maricopa County will announce its next numbers at ~2am.

This would likely seal Arizona one way or the other.

Isn't that the county of the famous sheriff Joe Arpaio? He seemed aggressively pro Trump, but is there a sense of what the county's overall leanings might be?

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Any results of note coming in tonight our time or will it have to be tomorrow morning?

StringerBell

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Maricopa County will announce its next numbers at ~2am.

This would likely seal Arizona one way or the other.

Not necessarily, as I believe they are waiting for votes to come in from another area that should have a fair amount of blue votes but yeah if trump doesn't pull ahead by a good bit I'd say that will probably do it for AZ and fox can breathe a sigh of relief

Foxtrol

Damien360 wrote: »

Discussed in detail on CNN. Not all the votes remaining are urban. Biden polls 75% in urban areas but Trump gets upwards of 60% rural. Can’t remember the breakdown of urban vs rural remaining.

Biden is coming in better than Clinton was in 2016 in most rural areas and add to that the mail in vote (that they are now counting) is trending blue nearly everywhere when compared to the in person. There maybe some areas that come in something like 60% for Trump but I don't see many of them with a lot of raw vote totals

The Iron Giant

Maricopa County will announce its next numbers at ~2am.

This would likely seal Arizona one way or the other.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Damien360 wrote: »

Discussed in detail on CNN. Not all the votes remaining are urban. Biden polls 75% in urban areas but Trump gets upwards of 60% rural. Can’t remember the breakdown of urban vs rural remaining.

Absolutely correct but the urban vote, for obvious reasons, is far more important.

Very difficult to see Trump holding on there.

Edit: I should also add that they are only counting mail-in ballots. CNN just said that there was only 1 county where Trump won a county with mail in votes. Also said in Philly the mail in ballots are up to 95% for Biden.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Up to 17,000 votes in heavily democratic Chatham County, GA yet to be tallied.

They're to be released "at end of business today" which you would assume will be by midnight Irish time.

Biden currently trailing by about 13,500 votes in GA.

StringerBell

breezy1985 wrote: »

Christ could you imagine the witch hunt if 1 vote came back Trump

It happened in 2016, there were 7 votes. 5 Clinton and 2 for trump.

They may have driven them out, they may have murdered them, can never say for sure

Damien360

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

550,000 votes left in PA. Biden needs 58-61% and Trump needs 38-40%.

Biden polling at around 75%.

Discussed in detail on CNN. Not all the votes remaining are urban. Biden polls 75% in urban areas but Trump gets upwards of 60% rural. Can’t remember the breakdown of urban vs rural remaining.

The Iron Giant

breezy1985 wrote: »

Christ could you imagine the witch hunt if 1 vote came back Trump

There's a Tarantino film in there somewhere.

robinph

breezy1985 wrote: »

Christ could you imagine the witch hunt if 1 vote came back Trump

I belive they almost couldn't hold the ballot last time round because someone had left town and they needed 5 local volunteers as the various election official roles, basically themselves.

Luckily someone new moved in to the area soon enough before the election.

hirondelle

breezy1985 wrote: »

Christ could you imagine the witch hunt if 1 vote came back Trump

Definitely a shy Trump voter!

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

550,000 votes left in PA. Biden needs 58-61% and Trump needs 38-40%.

Biden polling at around 75%.

StringerBell

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

These lads are taking it well I see..

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1324405345448464384

I used to be such a fan of James Woods too, truly disappointed with some of the crap I've seen come out of him these last few years.

hirondelle

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

I've just spent the last 15 minutes doing the same...:o

It is kind of enjoyable!

breezy1985

Quin_Dub wrote: »

No one can beat , but might equal Dixville Notch - 100% for Biden.

Always get a bit of press , they hold the election at midnight and count right away - Only 5 Voters!!

Christ could you imagine the witch hunt if 1 vote came back Trump

StringerBell

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

This must be excruciating for Trump and his supporters to see all of these states fall one by one : Wisconsin, Michigan, probably Pennsylvania, possibly Georgia. Hell there was even a bizarrely long time on election night when Virginia was red!

What's even worse is that there were many periods throughout the past 2 days where things looked really optimistic for him. They say "it's the hope that kills you" after all.

Disclaimer: If Trump somehow pulls it out of the bag that pain would be 10 times worse for his opponents.

And his legal claims are being bitch slapped out of court in both Georgia and Michigan, with the Michigan judge in particular seeming pretty exasperated that they even filed given the "evidence"