swiwi_ wrote: » The guy can’t defend to save himself. Great on attack, rubbish (lazy) on defence.
kingofthekong wrote: » Is Teddy Thomas out?....thats huge He nearly single handedly beat us in Paris last time
WhoamI2022 wrote: » I said involved, passing on his experience etc. Not necessary a coaching role. With the likes of POC and BOD we are losing huge experience to TV roles, maybe keeping them in as consultants just to pass on knowledge is not a bad thing. Everyone says POC has the ability to pick any lineout apart, do not lose that skill, pass it on
WhoamI2022 wrote: » Four players got a higher rating to Carty. Another 4 got the same score. That's why I pointed to the Joe.ie website. Just look at the TV3 process for picking MOM, it goes to Quinlan and he picks a forward everytime. You could also get good odds on it been a Munster player if possible.
siltirocker wrote: » I don't see the relevance of this. Joe.ie gave him a 7.5 rating and said "Nailed an early penalty to settle any nerves on his first start. Showed the sort of bravery and invention that Connacht fans will know all too well. Missed a conversion and penalty and put a little too much on a couple of kicks out of hand. His looped pass to Conway drifted forward so a try was ruled out." I don't see how it supports your point, or takes away from mine. Not at all. I simply posted in response to the claim that Carty hasn't done anything by posted very clear and detailed examples of how he has. Fair enough.
Paul Smeenus wrote: » Why on Earth would we keep him involved with U20s? Why not get a proper coach? The U20s didn't look very good when he was involved.
WhoamI2022 wrote: » Maybe keeping him involved with the U20 might make sense. With the TV work he is probably less concerned about making money from coaching
WhoamI2022 wrote: » https://www.sportsjoe.ie/rugby/ireland-wales-player-ratings-3-205710
WhoamI2022 wrote: » Anyway based on the reviews you have given Carty, he should be the starting 10 for Ireland
WhoamI2022 wrote: » :P Let's agree to disagree.
Paul Smeenus wrote: » https://www.the42.ie/paul-oconnell-coaching-ireland-5246949-Oct2020/ Glad to hear him coming out and talking about this. It'd be nice if this decoupled the facile great player = great coach mentality that's so pervasive. Not too long ago people on here were posting about him coaching forwards in some sort of dream nostalgia ticket with ROG.
siltirocker wrote: » He was literally Man Of The Match in that game. Seems to me like all the points and evidence provided aren't going to do much, as you've made up your mind.
errlloyd wrote: » I was quoting Venjur, not you Syd. No one on this forum is trying to delegitimise our women's team - and I did not suggest you were or mean to cast the implication that you were. But we can all do our part to make it more difficult for those elsewhere to do it.
venjur wrote: » I don't think he is pearl clutching nor was he insinuating that you posted with any kind of bad faith in mind..
WhoamI2022 wrote: » Carty started ok v Wales but disappeared after a decent start. It wasn't a great Welsh team with a number of players not even making the cut.
WhoamI2022 wrote: » Carty has been given a decent chance and so far has failed to deliver.
swiwi_ wrote: » I have to say I’m a bit surprised by your post pickarooney. As someone who lives in France, you would (should) know that female rugby players refer to themselves as « filles » not « femmes » much like you often hear « girls » and not « women » in the English speaking world. As an aside, when I’m cheering on my teams, I tend to say come on « boys » or « lads » and never « men ». I’d say girls is a term of endearment and not discrimination or sexism.
sydthebeat wrote: » no need for the pearl clutching here, no one is questioning anyones legitimacy. if posters want to take offence on behalf of others where absolutely none exists, so be it, that's their crutch... but do not dare bring something into it that is not there to begin with.
siltirocker wrote: » Could you expand though? You can't state someone is not telling the truth and not back it up. Carty was man of the match against Wales, and he did set up the two tries against Japan. To be honest I read the stat in the 42.ie and in fairness a quick scan of those tries seems to support it that too. Larmour's try vs Wales. Carty's grubber on halfway sent Stockdale to the 5m line, from the resulting rucks Carty threw a looping pass over 2 or 3 players which left Larmour with a 1 on 1 to get over. Marmion try against Italy was a block down and he had no involvement. Aki's try against England. The flat pass to Aki was from Carty. (Although Aki did most the work definitely in that one). Stockdale's first against Wales was from Carty breaking the line and offloading from 3 defenders to Conway, who popped it out for Stockdale to go over. Stockdale's second was a solo chase capitilising on a Welsh mistake. Ringrose against Japan was from a Carty crossfield kick. Kearney against Japan was Carty chip over the top which he collected and slapped down into Kearney's hands to go over. Conway against Russia was from a chip over the top from Carty into Ringrose who put Conway in. Then Ringrose against Japan, which Carty was involved in, but in no stand out way as it was a team try. That's 9 tries I counted and 6 of which he was arguably the prime creator in. I think it sufficiently answers your initial point?: When has Carty done well for Ireland?
errlloyd wrote: » It's also just true that our men's team don't ever have to struggle for legitimacy, but our women's team constantly do.
pickarooney wrote: » They may be amateur but they're still adults. Women, not girls.
WhoamI2022 wrote: » I think you might not be telling the whole truth :-) let’s leave it at that
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