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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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ED E

Breezer wrote: »

Lad on an electric scooter coming salmoning up the now protected, one way cycle lane on Church Street this evening, with vehicular traffic proceeding along on the other side of the bollards. I stopped dead and then eased past him as he gawked at me with his mouth open.

Lad who looks like he's been through 40yrs of substance abuse flying around on one on pedestrian routes all day today. Surprised to see the helmet.

padjocollins

Seth Brundle wrote: »

With extremely few exceptions, cycle lanes in Ireland are not designed for cyclists, nor are the designers familiar with cycling - this is obvious from their design.
To date, most cycle lanes are designed to help ensure that vehicles don't get delayed, no other reason. In many cases, cycle lanes can decrease safety for bike users.
The government know this (and to date have done nothing much about it) but it is for this reason that they are not mandatory.

should have qualified my comment with . Avid cyclist in germany. no comparison to Ireland, unfortunately.

tnegun

padjocollins wrote: »

avid cyclist here . Why didn't you use the cycle lane ? Still no excuse for the drivers dangerous behaviour.

Its just awful, kerbs, junctions, dogs and people walking in it plus two roundabouts you need to get through but have been dumped on a side road.

CramCycle

padjocollins wrote: »

avid cyclist here . Why didn't you use the cycle lane ? Still no excuse for the drivers dangerous behaviour.

Shared space, very dangerous to use. You can even see a ped and dog using it in the video. Far safer for everyone to use the road. Also loose priority at every junction there.

VonLuck

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Avid drivist here, with 25 reasons not to use cycle lanes.
https://irishcycle.com/2015/11/05/images-25-reasons-why-cyclists-dont-use-cycle-lanes

I think he was asking specifically about that cycle lane, unless all 25 of those reasons apply!

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padjocollins wrote: »

avid cyclist here . Why didn't you use the cycle lane ? Still no excuse for the drivers dangerous behaviour.

Avid drivist here, with 25 reasons not to use cycle lanes.
https://irishcycle.com/2015/11/05/images-25-reasons-why-cyclists-dont-use-cycle-lanes

padjocollins

avid cyclist here . Why didn't you use the cycle lane ? Still no excuse for the drivers dangerous behaviour.

tnegun

They gave me some speil about getting the local guard to make contact and call to the house as the car was registered to a woman and I had reported a male driver - I had had words with him at a the next set of lights and his attitude convienced me to report it - anyway it was his wifes car and he had a long day at work or something then I got in his way forcing him to pass and he temporarialy lost his cool as there was a cycle lane I should of been using. I was getting angry myself listening to this and then I was told about how much effort went into getting me this story like I was expected to apologize for wasting their time! As I said it was early covid so I was aware the guards time was better spent than arguing with me so I just let it go on he basis that this guy now knew the guards could come knocking.

micar

tnegun wrote: »

the guard went on to say the lengths gone to to track down the driver and that there wasn't much more they could do.

Surely, it doesn't take long to find out the address the car registered to.

tnegun

Chiparus wrote: »

I wonder can you get the drivers insurance details?

Unfortunately being a d1ck and trying to intimidate a cyclist by driving up to their back wheel then beeping and passing too close isn't something you can claim for!

standardg60

tnegun wrote: »

I reported this pass just before the first Covid lock down and got a call in early April from the garda investigating. They had made contact with the driver and I had frustrated him by not using the cycle lane forcing him to overtake me.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing the guard went on to say the lengths gone to to track down the driver and that there wasn't much more they could do.

I was fuming but there was much bigger things going on in the world so I made the point that there was no obligation for me to use the cycle lane something the guard wouldn't agree or disagree on and I just said to leave it.

Just goes to show it all depends on who the guard is, someone actually interested in doing justice to their job or the next line in the family getting the handy number.

Chiparus

tnegun wrote: »

I reported this pass just before the first Covid lock down and got a call in early April from the garda investigating. They had made contact with the driver and I had frustrated him by not using the cycle lane forcing him to overtake me.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing the guard went on to say the lengths gone to to track down the driver and that there wasn't much more they could do.

I was fuming but there was much bigger things going on in the world so I made the point that there was no obligation for me to use the cycle lane something the guard wouldn't agree or disagree on and I just said to leave it.

I wonder can you get the drivers insurance details?

tnegun

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Surely it's the cyclists fault for not using a cycle path and forcing the driver to overtake?

I reported this pass just before the first Covid lock down and got a call in early April from the garda investigating. They had made contact with the driver and I had frustrated him by not using the cycle lane forcing him to overtake me.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing the guard went on to say the lengths gone to to track down the driver and that there wasn't much more they could do.

I was fuming but there was much bigger things going on in the world so I made the point that there was no obligation for me to use the cycle lane something the guard wouldn't agree or disagree on and I just said to leave it.

standardg60

blackwhite wrote: »

Likely split responsibility

Not supposed to overtake when there’s a solid white line. Also not supposed to overtake if there’s a side road or entrance that you’ll be over the centre line whilst passing

Equally well, not supposed to enter the roadway unless you can see it’s clear - so fault attributable to both sides if anything were to happen

Would be madness to turn on to a more primary road without checking both directions regardless which way you're turning or whether there's a solid white line. In fairness to the truck driver i don't see that he was actually proceeding, the overtaking car braked just in case.

blackwhite

VonLuck wrote: »

I always wondered where liability would lie in that scenario. Well, more so if it was a dashed line. Would the truck driver be in the wrong because he didn't look left?

Likely split responsibility

Not supposed to overtake when there’s a solid white line. Also not supposed to overtake if there’s a side road or entrance that you’ll be over the centre line whilst passing

Equally well, not supposed to enter the roadway unless you can see it’s clear - so fault attributable to both sides if anything were to happen

VonLuck

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Possibly a slight exaggeration to call it a 'near miss', but an interesting scenario nonetheless.

https://streamable.com/it8inm

Driver overtaking on winding road on continuous white line wasn't expecting to find the truck trying to pull out from a yard in front of them.
Driver of truck who looked right to ensure there was no traffic coming wasn't expecting to find a car coming at him on the wrong side of the road.

I always wondered where liability would lie in that scenario. Well, more so if it was a dashed line. Would the truck driver be in the wrong because he didn't look left?

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Possibly a slight exaggeration to call it a 'near miss', but an interesting scenario nonetheless.

https://streamable.com/it8inm

Driver overtaking on winding road on continuous white line wasn't expecting to find the truck trying to pull out from a yard in front of them.
Driver of truck who looked right to ensure there was no traffic coming wasn't expecting to find a car coming at him on the wrong side of the road.

tnegun

tnegun wrote: »

Very positive outcome this evening. I went back to Leixlip and was seen straight away, the guard was sound and genuinely shocked/appalled by the footage. He took my statement and the stills I had printed plus watched the video at least 10 times to make sure all the details were captured. The whole experience could not of been better certainly has changed my perception of it.

Quick update, I'd call back from another equally sound Garda in Maynooth who had been forwarded the complaint but he will have to forward it to Ashbourne who will pass it to Dunboyne or Kilcock as it occurred just over the border in Meath. Guard couldn't apologize enough about it and we'd the good chat about cycling in general at least it's working its way through the process I guess!

breezy1985

CramCycle wrote: »

The Met I think have a system for this so its certainly doable, I think its as simple as putting the footage on their page, with name and details and they issue the fine. I think a civilian cohort do the leg work so not taking anyone off duty.

Never had a road problem in London but they definitely had one for Break ins so I assume it's the same.

I think the going for penalty points is the right option as it will probably be far more likely to have a positive outcome and most drivers do see PPs as a serious punishment

CramCycle

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Several UK police forces use this portal. I'm not mad keen on the idea of the commercial provider involvement, but it is still a huge improvement over our situation.

https://www.nextbase.com/en-gb/national-dash-cam-safety-portal/

I have no issue with it provided there is no profit for conviction on it.

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CramCycle wrote: »

The Met I think have a system for this so its certainly doable, I think its as simple as putting the footage on their page, with name and details and they issue the fine. I think a civilian cohort do the leg work so not taking anyone off duty.

Several UK police forces use this portal. I'm not mad keen on the idea of the commercial provider involvement, but it is still a huge improvement over our situation.

https://www.nextbase.com/en-gb/national-dash-cam-safety-portal/

CramCycle

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Completely agree. In an ideal world I should be able to submit the footage online with a written statement and contact details. Provided the evidence is clear points can then be given out easily. But I can't imagine that being in place at all in the next ten years.

The Met I think have a system for this so its certainly doable, I think its as simple as putting the footage on their page, with name and details and they issue the fine. I think a civilian cohort do the leg work so not taking anyone off duty.

breezy1985

blackwhite wrote: »

Many years ago, I was heading down Threadneedle Rd in Galway when a dog decided to shoot out into the road in front of me - whilst still on one of those extendable leashes. Managed to miss the dog, but caught in the leash instead.

I went over the handlebars, and the dog was nearly strangled by the impact.

People really are stupid with those extendable leads sometimes. They should always be kept locked when walking on streets. I've never had on dash out on the road but I have seen people tripped up because dogs suddenly dart across a path to fight

blackwhite

Weepsie wrote: »

Not your usual near miss

https://streamable.com/clo1lr

Many years ago, I was heading down Threadneedle Rd in Galway when a dog decided to shoot out into the road in front of me - whilst still on one of those extendable leashes. Managed to miss the dog, but caught in the leash instead.

I went over the handlebars, and the dog was nearly strangled by the impact.

ED E

TheChizler wrote: »

Two near misses today though they weren't mine, normally I have very uneventful shopping trips.

Audi driver overtook me giving me plenty of room, not so much room for the oncoming car though.

https://streamable.com/qrjuuq

Driver coming back to a car parked in a loading bay nearly did a U-turn through a Deliveroo cyclist.

https://streamable.com/are32i

Calling them near misses is being a bit dramatic tbh. Just regular irish driving.

D13exile

Articulated truck overtook me so close on the Kilcock to Clane road that I was caught in the “suction” as he passed and I think it added 5kph to my speed! If I’d so much as twitched to my right, I’d have made contact with him. Northern reg on him and he was booting it on what is an 80kph limit road. Not one sign of a Garda or speedvan though. Amazing how I seem to always find them on that road when I’m driving!

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5uspect wrote: »

I picked up an Insta360 One R 360 degree camera on Prime Day. Hopefully I won’t have to post anything from it here.

What kind of cost are we talking about?

CramCycle

Love the sarcastic round of applause

TheChizler

Two near misses today though they weren't mine, normally I have very uneventful shopping trips.

Audi driver overtook me giving me plenty of room, not so much room for the oncoming car though.

https://streamable.com/qrjuuq

Driver coming back to a car parked in a loading bay nearly did a U-turn through a Deliveroo cyclist.

https://streamable.com/are32i

[Deleted User]

John_Rambo wrote: »

Wheaten Terrier. Ball of muscle with incredibly strong jaws.

Thats Weepsie not sleeping tonight :pac: