Igotadose wrote: » But... tax break only works if you're reporting income. That's what I'm missing - they never sold anything or much of anything in this factory. Now, maybe they got some sweeteners at the Federal Level, but right now, it looks like they just threw money down a hole. I don't believe it. Unless Wisconsin, or the USG, or some combination, actually funded the work. The reporters really should be following the money at this point, they've got everyone convinced the factory is a sham, even the Wisconsin state government. And, it's a Taiwanese company; did Ivanka get some more trademarks/patents there as a result of Foxconn's influence? Heh.
gmisk wrote: » Who would they even run in 2024? I am not sure they have another Trump like figure in the wings. Nikki Haley? Ron DeSantis? Hawley? They were at his rallies I think. Or totally disassociate from Trump? Who would be options then!
Igotadose wrote: » So, say Biden wins in a few weeks. In 4 years, who believes the eventual 2024 GOP nominee asks Trump to speak for him/her on the campaign trail?
Water John wrote: » There is, he's called Donald Trump Jnr.
Igotadose wrote: » In other news, an attempt to bring jobs to the US, to Wisconsin via Foxconn, that the #IMPOTUS directly was involved in, is.... you guessed it... a failure. In fact, it's borderline surreal. I've posted The Verge's lengthy expose that includes things like Foxconn claiming self-driving cars that turned out to be low-end garishly colored golf carts that the few employees actually hired drove around in one of the 2 empty buildings built until the batteries wore out.https://www.theverge.com/21507966/foxconn-empty-factories-wisconsin-jobs-loophole-trump Well, some more recent followup, doesn't make things look any better. "Apparently Foxconn's Wisconsin LCD Factory Is Fake"https://gizmodo.com/apparently-foxconns-wisconsin-lcd-factory-is-fake-1845445416 Pythonesque; promised 13,000 jobs, hired 113. Empty buildings, what few employees there were, sat around playing games on their phones and netflixing. What I don't get, is what Foxconn really got out of this. It's seems illogical that this was their 'plan.' Somehow their backs were being scratched somewhere. I detect the long arm of the WH Admin but no data yet.
seamus wrote: » Potentially Ivanka, but I suspect the next four years is going to be legally challenging for all of the Trump spawn.
seamus wrote: » The GOP's 2024 pick will absolutely be a relatively young, white, very christian, attractive mother. Who in terms of bible-thumping will make Mike Pence look like Howard Stern. Potentially Ivanka, but I suspect the next four years is going to be legally challenging for all of the Trump spawn.
20Cent wrote: » Yeah it's all falling apart. Obama's speech will be really getting to him. Rudy revelation and walking out of a 60 minutes interview. This one will be worth watching. The mute button will get to him as well. All lining up for a live meltdown.
Gunmonkey wrote: » If I had to take a stab at whats going on, the plant is now their American subsidiary and all fees for production in other plants overseas from American companies (like Apple) will be paid to this subsidiary (at their reduced tax rate for whatever BS flies: new plant opening, plant in a particular area, of a particular size, obviously not for jobs created) and then the cash transferred back to HQ having already been taxed so can bypass local tax laws.Are they actually doing a mute system for the last debate? Oh man, that will be hilarious viewing watching Trump shrieking and jumping up and down in a tantrum when he is not listened to/muted.
Quin_Dub wrote: » Yes they are, and how he deals with that will be important. Equally important will be how the sound is managed on TV. If he actually stays quiet, I think the mute helps him. It will artificially suppress the things about his personality that people were so utterly turned off by in the 1st debate. If however, he goes the more likely route and just talks/shouts across Biden (and if it can be heard on the TV broadcast) it just further damages him with those few and final "undecided" voters.
Quin_Dub wrote: » Yes they are, and how he deals with that will be important. Equally important will be how the sound is managed on TV.
gizmo wrote: » Bring back Michele Bachmann, I say. At least God spoke directly to her so we wouldn't have to have his message diluted by other religious leaders who might have their own agenda.
correct horse battery staple wrote: » like i said earlier it is fascinating to see Trumpists get all "concerned" about election meddling at this hour while completely ignoring that Trump is on record requesting a foreign country to meddle and his people are in courts/jail for collusion in past.
Billy Mays wrote: » Whatever happened to that looper?
gizmo wrote: » Depends on your perspective really, she either didn't seek re-election to her Congressional seat at the end of her term because God didn't give her the thumbs up to run again or she didn't do it because her not running meant the House Ethics Committee investigations against her were dropped.
stefanovich wrote: » Fox were interviewing one of the debate officials and in fairness he seemed totally reasonable. He did mention there was an issue with the perception that some moderators were biased and they were looking to address that in the future.I don't think there will be any muting malarkey.
robinph wrote: » They are having the mics muted, but it's not what we'd think of as a mute button. Just for their initial 2 minutes each on each topic the other mic will be turned off. there won't be any turning off of the mics to prevent interruptions during any of the rest of the shouting match. With any luck we get an image of Trump screaming in a perspex box whilst nobody can hear him, or he walks around the screen to get to Bidens mic and Bidens secret service security detail have to take trump down.
check_six wrote: » As I understood it, it is only the opening statements that involve the muted mics. The debate will have open mics with the inevitable depressing roaring and shouting. It's mad that they have had to go to these lengths to ensure that the opening statement does not get shouted over by yer man. Ridiculous lack of self control exhibited or a ridiculous scheme to just shout nonsense all the time in an attempt to make a mess of the whole debate. Neither of these reflect well on him.
robinph wrote: » That there will be muted mics after each question I really can't see him managing to maintain silence for each one. He might be able to do so for the first round, but unless he's sedated during the ad break each time he's surely still going to be raging from the last bit. He'll also not be able to contain himself to the two minutes so the effect of him getting cut off mid sentence about making Mexico pay for locking Hillary up will be glorious.
Alyssa Farah, the White House director of strategic communications and assistant to the president, said expect President Trump to discuss two topics at tonight's debate: China and Hunter Biden "We need to have a real discussion on China," Farah said Thursday on Fox Business News. ... "And I do think we are going to, whether it's asked or he has the opportunity to bring it up, he is going to get into this issue of Hunter Biden," she said. "The American people need to know if the Biden family in any way is beholden to China."
amandstu wrote: » Do those drive-in rallies take from his shine if there is so little give and take with the audience?
gmisk wrote: » That dope. I'd say they would go mad for Ivanka even over him. Not Eric or Tiffany? They both seem so bright....
