Diarmuid wrote: » What a bizarre post. No mention in my post about masks for or against. Classic whatbaoutery, when you are unable to deal with the substance of the post
Dionaibh wrote: » But you've just described the problem: the normalisation of masks. Masks rob people of their humanity. No smiles, no expressions, just masks everywhere.
Beasty wrote: » Take your mask discussion to the masks thread - it's not for here
Cordell wrote: » Because no one really trust them. No one trust them that they didn't fudge the numbers so far, so they would have to start from phase 1, and they're already doing that with their own vaccines. The russians are not ahead with their vaccine, not even them actually claim that, but they launched some rumors that imply they are. They aren't.
Cordell wrote: » You only have their word and Putin's seal of approval for it. You can't trust neither. The western vaccines in phase 3 are at least safe, at least with a high degree of probability, and that's based on actual evidence. None of them is proven to be effective, so at least go with what's safe.
I hope people won't dismiss it because it's on rt
Cordell wrote: » No, but I would dismiss any claim coming from the russians. Q&A interviews are not a substitute for actual tests, let's see those, not empty claims.
Cordell wrote: » I really don't get the point so I'm stopping at this: there are many vaccines that passed both phase 1 and 2 and there are a few in phase 3. Yet you are still putting all your hopes into a vaccine that arguably passed phase 1. Your choice I suppose.
Hmmzis wrote: » AstraZeneca kicking off their monoclonal antibody phase 3 trials as well:https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2020/covid-19-long-acting-antibody-laab-combination-azd7442-rapidly-advances-into-phase-iii-clinical-trials.html Similar to Regeneron they're using two mABs in their cocktail and in addition they're engineered for stability (6 to 12 months per dose) and are lacking the Fc receptor (can't serve as tags, but they're neutralizing anyway, so nothing lost there). Price for the US government looks to be around 5k per dose, 100k doses in 2020.
cgc5483 wrote: » The Fc receptor is found on cells not antibodies. These antibodies have site directed mutations in their Fc region which prevents/diminishes them interacting with the Fc receptor resulting in less clearance and longer half-life.
Dionaibh wrote: » I fear it's because it's from Russia, and the media are programmed to oppose all things Russia.
Rrrrrr2 wrote: » Question- why dont authorities here test the Russian vaccine or a western bio pharma company licence it from the Russians and go through the regulatory tests it would need for European registration?
Rrrrrr2 wrote: » That’s what I thought (they’ve a great scientific reputation throughout history) plus the USA and European pharma industry would not be in control
hmmm wrote: » Because there are lots of perfectly good other vaccines in trials. If the Russians themselves want to spend a few hundred million testing their vaccine to Western standards then good for them. The Russians haven't helped themselves by hyping it up based on what was Phase 1/2 studies.
Dionaibh wrote: » I believe the reason they are very confident about the vaccine is because they did years of research on vaccines they worked on for Ebola and MERS. That meant they were able to move quickly. They just had to tweak those vaccines. They are also using proven technology whereas other vaccines are using experimental technology.
hmmm wrote: » Same with Oxford, and they are testing it on 30,000+ people anyway because that's how we do things. Good for the Russians, and they have plenty of expertise in this area, but it's up to them if they want to have their vaccine tested and approved to Western standards.
Dionaibh wrote: » But, if I'm not mistaken, the Russians are testing it on 40,000 people in various countries as we speak.
hmmm wrote: » Great stuff, here's hoping you'll take it.
Dionaibh wrote: » If I had to take one I'd probably take that one
rottie 11 wrote: » I was tested yesterday morning at 10am , I was told I’d get a text or phone call probably today but received nothing. Is it possible to get the text on a Sunday does anyone know ? I kind of want to know ASAP if I’m negative or not, it’s doing my brain in thinking about it
charlietheminxx wrote: » Standard for results at the moment is 24-48 hours, though I believe there’s a backlog in some areas. Texts come 7 days a week, you’ll likely hear tomorrow.
Away With The Fairies wrote: » For those following the vaccines, is it true that a vaccine isn't going to give immunity?
Thierry12 wrote: » Yes its true No sterilising immunity Nasal vaccines might give it in the future
