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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

Hulk Hands

The comparison was silly. Walsh could be argued as the worst of those three and Mayo sacrificed their best player on Saturday to follow him everywhere. If Walsh jumped into the first row of concrete benches around the edge, Keegan would've hopped in beside him. Hardly conductive to getting easy space and ball

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wirelessdude01

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Some talk in the last few days about playing out the club provincial/All-Ireland series after Christmas so we might get to see this after all, but not against Corofin of course

The question has to be asked is would.it be fair/right to have them all the county champions training over the winter months for something that might not be allowed happen. Personally I'd say leave it be.

Green&Red

Hulk Hands wrote: »

They'd be 2/1 outsiders to get past Mountbellew M for starters. Maybe slightly shorter against Moycullen. Would be fascinating to see though

Not sure how you’re coming up with those odds

Best of luck to Tom Clarke, left us for Moycullen this year, he’s a guard in Galway, having a stormer by all accounts

Hulk Hands

Green&Red wrote: »

Not sure how you’re coming up with those odds

It's hardly rocket science to price club GAA. They've just beaten the best club side of all time by 7 points, and were 30 seconds from beating them 2 years ago. Knockmore have come from obscurity to beat Tubber and Breaffy. What other data points do you think the odds would be made from?

There's a fair argument that MM have been the second best club in Ireland for the past few years, and would have perhaps their best player back from injury in February if the comp went ahead. As it is, Ballymun would be AI favs in that case given their firepower with the Galway winner or Nemo (assuming they clear Cork) second

seligehgit

All the talk has been about the retirement of Diarmuid Connolly and certainly not wishing to detract from same but I thought I'd wish another fine footballer a healthy retirement.

Sadly there's no active Sligo thread but after 16 years of service Adrian Marren has called it a day.

Not too often a Mayo man is so complimentary of a Sligo man!:)

Always_Running

Mayo 1-19 Donegal 2-11 in a challenge in Sligo today.

This was the starting team, would you consider it close to full strength?

Robert Hennelly, Oisin Mullin, Chris Barrett, Lee Keegan; Colm Boyle,Kevin McLoughlin,Eoghan McLaughlin;Tom Parsons, Mattie Ruane; Diarmuid O’Connor, Mark Moran, Fionn McDonagh; Cillian O’Connor, Aidan O’Shea, Tommy Conroy.

Blackjack

Always_Running wrote: »

Mayo 1-19 Donegal 2-11 in a challenge in Sligo today.

This was the starting team, would you consider it close to full strength?

Robert Hennelly, Oisin Mullin, Chris Barrett, Lee Keegan; Colm Boyle,Kevin McLoughlin,Eoghan McLaughlin;Tom Parsons, Mattie Ruane; Diarmuid O’Connor, Mark Moran, Fionn McDonagh; Cillian O’Connor, Aidan O’Shea, Tommy Conroy.

Missing a few, Jason and Paddy for example. Good to see Boyler and Fionn back out though.

seligehgit

Always_Running wrote: »

Mayo 1-19 Donegal 2-11 in a challenge in Sligo today.

This was the starting team, would you consider it close to full strength?

Robert Hennelly, Oisin Mullin, Chris Barrett, Lee Keegan; Colm Boyle,Kevin McLoughlin,Eoghan McLaughlin;Tom Parsons, Mattie Ruane; Diarmuid O’Connor, Mark Moran, Fionn McDonagh; Cillian O’Connor, Aidan O’Shea, Tommy Conroy.

I'd have expected quite a bit more experimentation TBH.It would have been nice to see some of the Knockmore lads get a run out of sorts.Great to see Mark Moran feature.

Having said that I'm very pessimistic re the championship starting at this point in time.I'd have absolutely no issue with same.

If the trends continue public health advise will dictate a level 4 lockdown.

Anyway attached are links to a couple of Western People articles.

A report on the match.

https://westernpeople.ie/2020/10/03/mayo-footballers-claim-victory-in-saturday-challenge/#.X3mIJ3Uo8W5

The second article hints at the possible return of Tom Prendergast to the backroom team and extols the virtues of Terry Kennedy of basketball fame lest in the highly improbable scenario that James Horan forgets same.

https://westernpeople.ie/2020/10/02/has-mayo-football-a-special-weapon-heading-into-the-winter-all-ireland/#.X3mJbXXhQW6

paddy no 11

Is Kevin mcloughlin likely to play championship at 6?

Playmaker type? Ye'll need to replace him upfront with someone
who can actually kick a point as hes been one of the few ye've had

NabyLadistheman

seligehgit wrote: »

I'd have expected quite a bit more experimentation TBH.It would have been nice to see some of the Knockmore lads get a run out of sorts.Great to see Mark Moran feature.

Having said that I'm very pessimistic re the championship starting at this point in time.I'd have absolutely no issue with same.

If the trends continue public health advise will dictate a level 4 lockdown.

Anyway attached are links to a couple of Western People articles.

A report on the match.

https://westernpeople.ie/2020/10/03/mayo-footballers-claim-victory-in-saturday-challenge/#.X3mIJ3Uo8W5

The second article hints at the possible return of Tom Prendergast to the backroom team and extols the virtues of Terry Kennedy of basketball fame lest in the highly improbable scenario that James Horan forgets same.

https://westernpeople.ie/2020/10/02/has-mayo-football-a-special-weapon-heading-into-the-winter-all-ireland/#.X3mJbXXhQW6

To be honest I don't think it's a time for experimentation. Horses for courses approach now for this season especially with Galway on the horizon in a very important league game. There is a freshness to that line-up as well with Mullin, McLaughlin, Moran, & Fionn back now as well. Im sure there are plenty other options off the bench as well.

Delighted to see this line-up and a win secured. We've come through the club championship with relatively unscathed. Lets hope Leeroy can continue where he left off as he seems to be in great shape and back to himself. Plenty of positives for the weeks ahead

Audioslaven

Always_Running wrote: »

Mayo 1-19 Donegal 2-11 in a challenge in Sligo today.

This was the starting team, would you consider it close to full strength?

Robert Hennelly, Oisin Mullin, Chris Barrett, Lee Keegan; Colm Boyle,Kevin McLoughlin,Eoghan McLaughlin;Tom Parsons, Mattie Ruane; Diarmuid O’Connor, Mark Moran, Fionn McDonagh; Cillian O’Connor, Aidan O’Shea, Tommy Conroy.

I just don't get using Hennelly, time to move on from him.

spakman

Peter Naughton from Knockmore is training with Sligo according to Ah Ref

wirelessdude01

spakman wrote: »

Peter Naughton from Knockmore is training with Sligo according to Ah Ref

Kinda obvious he wasn't asked to come in by Horan so.

Only other reason is that he had already given his word to Sligo before he was asked by Mayo

Either way the story I was told earlier in the week that he didn't want to commit to the time required for IC football was incorrect.

wirelessdude01

spakman wrote: »

Peter Naughton from Knockmore is training with Sligo according to Ah Ref

Always_Running

seligehgit wrote: »

I'd have expected quite a bit more experimentation TBH.It would have been nice to see some of the Knockmore lads get a run out of sorts.Great to see Mark Moran feature.

Having said that I'm very pessimistic re the championship starting at this point in time.I'd have absolutely no issue with same.

If the trends continue public health advise will dictate a level 4 lockdown.

Anyway attached are links to a couple of Western People articles.

A report on the match.

https://westernpeople.ie/2020/10/03/mayo-footballers-claim-victory-in-saturday-challenge/#.X3mIJ3Uo8W5

The second article hints at the possible return of Tom Prendergast to the backroom team and extols the virtues of Terry Kennedy of basketball fame lest in the highly improbable scenario that James Horan forgets same.

https://westernpeople.ie/2020/10/02/has-mayo-football-a-special-weapon-heading-into-the-winter-all-ireland/#.X3mJbXXhQW6

Going by the government roadmap the country need to go into level 5 for games to stop.

Green&Red

Peter Naughton in the Sligo panel

Should be the Mayo one IMO

https://twitter.com/ahrefsligo/status/1312742682289209345?s=21

muddle84

Audioslaven wrote: »

I just don't get using Hennelly, time to move on from him.

Thats pretty much my only thought from that lineup. There wasn't much sign of big improvements in him throughout the club championship!

wirelessdude01

Green&Red wrote: »

Peter Naughton in the Sligo panel

Should be the Mayo one IMO

https://twitter.com/ahrefsligo/status/1312742682289209345?s=21

Got any inside information?

seligehgit

Green&Red wrote: »

Peter Naughton in the Sligo panel

Should be the Mayo one IMO

https://twitter.com/ahrefsligo/status/1312742682289209345?s=21

That really beggars belief.

I can not think of any justification for not offering him an opportunity.

Loafing Oaf

Always_Running wrote: »

Going by the government roadmap the country need to go into level 5 for games to stop.

That's the technical position. But if the country moved into level 4 and the covid figures were still moving in the wrong direction just as the championship was about start, there would be big pressure on the GAA to call it off, especially if there were further cases among county players.

Green&Red

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Got any inside information?

None. His uncle played for Sligo so I suppose the connection is there

But ya it’s a real shame, he’s such a talented footballer. I’ve no idea why he wouldn’t be invited into the Mayo set up

wirelessdude01

Just thinking there, is there not a point during the year(thought it was the end of March) after which lads can't decide to switch their county allegiance?

Knockmore would tie him to Mayo unless a transfer was requested prior to this date or have I this totally ar$eways?

wirelessdude01

Seemingly Jason did his cruciate again at training during the week.

seligehgit

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Seemingly Jason did his cruciate again at training during the week.

Ah that's just cruel.

wirelessdude01

seligehgit wrote: »

Ah that's just cruel.

Seemingly the other knee this time.

km79

That’s terrible news for him

Green&Red

Hulk Hands wrote: »

It's hardly rocket science to price club GAA. They've just beaten the best club side of all time by 7 points, and were 30 seconds from beating them 2 years ago. Knockmore have come from obscurity to beat Tubber and Breaffy. What other data points do you think the odds would be made from?

There's a fair argument that MM have been the second best club in Ireland for the past few years, and would have perhaps their best player back from injury in February if the comp went ahead. As it is, Ballymun would be AI favs in that case given their firepower with the Galway winner or Nemo (assuming they clear Cork) second

Hows the rocket science degree going? Maybe making odds based off one performance isn’t the way to go?

Congrats to Tom Clarke, delighted for him. Sound lad and family

Hulk Hands

Green&Red wrote: »

Hows the rocket science degree going? Maybe making odds based off one performance isn’t the way to go?

Congrats to Tom Clarke, delighted for him. Sound lad and family

I predicted Moycullen to win on the Galway thread?

Knockmore, with few big names and who were in relegation trouble two years ago, would be outsiders against some teams who've either beaten the best club side ever or gone close to it. Are you butt-hurt about that or something? Ive never seen a lad get upset over bookies odds before

How would you price up Knockmore versus either of the Galway clubs?

Green&Red

Hulk Hands wrote: »

I predicted Moycullen to win on the Galway thread?

Knockmore, with few big names and who were in relegation trouble two years ago, would be outsiders against some teams who've either beaten the best club side ever or gone close to it. Are you butt-hurt about that or something? Ive never seen a lad get upset over bookies odds before

How would you price up Knockmore versus either of the Galway clubs?

Butt hurt? What an intelligent comment

It’s the equivalent of saying Villa would be favourites to beat City because they beat Liverpool yesterday

I’d have Knockmore as favourites against a team winning their first county championship. I also think Tom, personalities aside, would struggle to make the starting 15 for us this year

Hulk Hands

Green&Red wrote: »

It’s the equivalent of saying Villa would be favourites to beat City because they beat Liverpool yesterday

But here lies the beauty, you don't have anything else to go on. In MM's case you'd have a team going toe to toe with Corofin while KM are a bolter from the blue in Mayo. Moycullen are a side with 5 current intercounty players, 1 more former, and two of the best young prospects in the country in with u20's, and who shouldve made a final last year. Theyve mopped up underage also.

I'll PM you the twitter handles of both the Boyles and PP GAA traders if you like? Might make you feel better to hear that KM would be outsiders from them

muddle84

Green&Red wrote: »

Butt hurt? What an intelligent comment

It’s the equivalent of saying Villa would be favourites to beat City because they beat Liverpool yesterday

I’d have Knockmore as favourites against a team winning their first county championship. I also think Tom, personalities aside, would struggle to make the starting 15 for us this year

Before this, Knockmore hadn't won a county title since 1997 (I'm aware you know this from following this thread). Would that really have a bearing on their chances of winning?