EmmetSpiceland wrote: » What is it with geeks and aliens? I mean, really? Aliens. You lot honestly believe that aliens “beings” are zooming about our skies, anally probing yokels, leaving circles in crops and performing “surgery” on cattle? Get real, lads. Open the curtains, it’s a lovely sunny day outside. Go for a walk, you’ll feel better for it.
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completedit wrote: » We try to explain everything away with rationalism now. Empiricism is the new religion. No wonder is left. It's horrendous what we're doing to our species. Religion, spirituality, wondering about the unknown propelled us to great heights; now if you dare ponder or imagine you are stigmatized and laughed at.
o1s1n wrote: » If you can explain something with empiricism then it is absolutely foolish to explain it with 'wonder' or 'the unknown' - if it's observable and knowable then there is no magic. Of all the unexplained things which have become explained throughout the ages, the answer has never been 'magic'. I have plenty of wonder about the unknown and universe in general, absolutely love it and pondering what might be. What I don't do, however, is try to place known things into 'the unknown'. If we can explain them with logic then that's that, it's not unknown, it's not magic.
steddyeddy wrote: » Well you laugh E but you're not doing much different than the people saying they're definitely aliens. You're saying what they definitely are and anyone who disagrees is crazy. The pilots I referred to described them as unidentified aerial vehicles of unknown origin. What you're doing is the opposite of science. You're coming to a conclusion before looking at the facts and changing the facts to suit your conclusion.
Godeatsboogers wrote: » I'd say aliens exist, do they come here and fly in our skies for some reason? Maybe, that's what we do with uncontacted tribes. I mean, were on a massive rock gravitating around a massive ball of gas thats on fire, fking miles away in a galaxy in an ever expanding universe that contains approximately 100 billion galaxies, as far as aliens are concerned, the statistics, if correct, suggest that they're out there somewhere, on some planet.
EmmetSpiceland wrote: » Come on now, S, you can’t really believe it’s aliens from some extra-solar planet “whizzing” about our skies? You’re always going on about being a scientist, surely you view this Fortean nonsense as a bit of fun, not to be taken seriously. I mean, we’re not talking about, intelligent, life existing in far flung corners of the galaxy here, that’s fine but the sci-fi stuff can’t be taken too seriously. I’ve no doubt your pilot saw something, no reason to suggest he didn’t, but to call it alien and then say “that’s that” is just insane. Aliens has to be the least likely explanation but, then again, it seems to be the easiest.
Alejandro68 wrote: » What if we are the only highly intelligent species in the Universe at the moment? Given the recent discovery of life somewhat on Venus which is microbiological. By the time they evolve into a somewhat intelligent being, wouldn't we be the high tech aliens to them? And yes I have been drinking and pondering this.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » But then what if we are considered the equivelant of microbial specks to a more advanced race?
bangkok wrote: » humans are currently driving a vehicle around mars, we've been to the moon, sent probes to venus, jupitur saturn, crashed a probe into a passing comet, in 200 years we will probably be walking or flying around most of the planets in the solar system, in 1000 years, we will probably be living on other planets, why is it so implausible to you that aliens are currently fling around the earth?!
EmmetSpiceland wrote: » Distance and time. It’s highly likely that we’ll be moving outwards, saving an extinction level “event”. The moon, Mars, Europa, Enceladus and maybe, even Titan. Anywhere we can get fuel to hop further out but once we get to the ice giants we’re looking at “ark” type ships that will be making one way trips out into the great black yonder. The idea of aliens zip-zapping across our planet and then “whizzing“ back to their home world to report on what the humans did next just doesn’t make sense. If they wanted to contact us, they would, if they wanted study us, they would and not in a clumsy “anal fixated” way and if they wanted to conquer us, they could. Although why they would want to is anyone’s guess. There’s nothing on this planet that they couldn’t find floating out in space in abundance. Unless they need the blood of the humans to power their vast “space bending” super hyper power drives? I mean, it’s possible...
unhappys10 wrote: » You're that full of sh1te the probe would get stuck.
EmmetSpiceland wrote: » Point your “probing finger” somewhere, pal. Also, stop focusing on my arse, keep “watching the skies”
EmmetSpiceland wrote: » Come on now, S, you can’t really believe it’s aliens from some extra-solar planet “whizzing” about our skies? You’re always going on about being a scientist, surely you view this Fortean nonsense as a bit of fun, not to be taken seriously.
Cmdr. David Fravor, a former squadron leader who worked as a Navy pilot for 18 years, said on Monday he was on a routine training mission off the coast of California in 2004 when his unit was directed to go and examine strange unidentified objects that were descending from 80,000 to 20,000 feet, and then disappearing. Upon flying 60 miles to the location, Fravor says he saw a tic-tac shaped object, “40 feet long with no wings, just hanging close to the water,” in an interview with the Washington Post on Monday. He said it created a disturbance on the water uncharacteristic of a helicopter or a plane, and moved rapidly. “As I get closer, as my nose is starting to pull back up, it accelerates and it’s gone,” he told the Post. “Faster than I’d ever seen anything in my life. We turn around, say let’s go see what’s in the water and there’s nothing. Just blue water.”
I mean, we’re not talking about, intelligent, life existing in far flung corners of the galaxy here, that’s fine but the sci-fi stuff can’t be taken too seriously.
I’ve no doubt your pilot saw something, no reason to suggest he didn’t, but to call it alien and then say “that’s that” is just insane. Aliens has to be the least likely explanation but, then again, it seems to be the easiest.
bobbyy gee wrote: » it's like god you believe or you don't believe or moving statues
Hamsterchops wrote: What are UFOs !
JasonStatham wrote: » I was watching Ancient Aliens last night on Blaze. They had some engineered aluminium object that dated from before humans had the capability to industrially produce aluminum They were also showing a metal ball discovered in America (Betz Sphere) that had a.small sample of element 140 inside the ball, and which made the device roll around after humans. Bizarre stuff.
