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PlayStation 5 - Now with FAQ in OP.

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Mark Cerny has been showing off the dev kit:

https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console

PS5 FAQ:
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/11/09/ps5-the-ultimate-faq/#sf239758641

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Kremin

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

€80 is a lot but I remember paying €70 for new releases nearly 20 years ago, inflation calculator says that would now be worth €89.01

I remember purchasing a new game when I just got a PS2 in 2002. I was so excited picking which game to buy and it turned out to be an easy choice when I spotted Spyro: Enter the Dragofly for sale, I loved Spyro on the PS1. It cost €70, which was a lot of money for a young fella but even that couldn't dissuade me. I believe I even choose it over MGS2 and FFX.

But what a pile of sh!t that game was, Gamespot gave it 2.8.

I've a feeling that people paying €80 for Demon's Soul's will not be as disappointed as I was back then.

Games are a weird one to price, I could go cinema for 2 hours roughly for 12 euro or buy a game which will provide countless hours of entertainment for 70 quid but it's still much easier in my mind to justify the cinema over a brand new game ðŸ˜‚

gimli2112

I can't imagine Demon Souls will hold it's value long, once the die hards buy it you should be able to pick it up on disc pretty cheap. Digitally it'll be €80 in 2028

bennyl10

Video wrote: »

i love sony but they're making some really bad moves over the last week or two .

The second the ultimate edition was announced this was always gonna happen

ERG89

xtal191 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/1308812954633211906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1308812954633211906%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html1308812954633211906

When your charging €80 for your only big next gen exclusive at launch this is not the move to make. The MM special edition is €20 more so that's basically what they are charging for it. They ain't that stuck for money, even EA & Ubisoft are offering free upgrades on this years games.

Zero-Cool

gimli2112 wrote: »

I can't imagine Demon Souls will hold it's value long, once the die hards buy it you should be able to pick it up on disc pretty cheap. Digitally it'll be €80 in 2028

Souls always keeps its value. Look at Sekiro ffs, waiting for a good price since release and it dipped to 45 digitally a couple of times but still full price physically.

As for Spidey, the ultimate edition is on my list as i never played the dlc's and aling with MM, will be a nice present of santa. It should be released as a standalone on ps5 with free upgrade though and leave the dlc and MM to ultimate content.

Penn

RGARDINR wrote: »

Of course go where the games are for sure just think Microsoft will have a lot this time round now. Just imagine what they would of had if they had of bought this studio 2 years before the new console was out

I just hope Bethesda are their only real "big" studio purchase. Would far prefer them to buy some smaller studios and help build them up. Likewise with Sony, would love to see them buy one or two more small studios that could produce great games that don't need to be flagship AAA games, but can just make some great smaller exclusives.

Would be a far better use of money than exclusive bonus content or timed exclusivity.

Danny552

Anyone know will ps5 be in stock in November 19th or only pre order?

Will it be hard to get ? I'm not in a rush for one as haven't used ps4 in months.

HairySalmon

Video wrote: »

i love sony but they're making some really bad moves over the last week or two .

I have a feeling TLOU will be a paid upgrade too.

They were pretty proactive with the Pro enhancements and made sure no developer could charge for them, so I’ll be disappointed if this turns out to be their new angle.

TitianGerm

HairySalmon wrote: »

I have a feeling TLOU will be a paid upgrade too.

They were pretty proactive with the Pro enhancements and made sure no developer could charge for them, so I’ll be disappointed if this turns out to be their new angle.

It's like Sony are nickel and dime'n you where as Microsoft just keeps adding move value.

LauraW7746

To be honest I think €80 per game is a tad bit overpriced aswell, €75 I can deal with

I'm sure PS4 games were €70 at launch if I remember right
If I have to pay €80 for a game or 2 at launch ill get over it just to have them launch day but after that I will go back to Amazon, Argos and smyths - sometimes have a deal with €5 off for games PO for instore collection
Like even COD PS5 is €5 cheaper than GS

SureYWouldntYa

One benefit of rarely holding onto a game is the initial price doesn't matter as much, as annoying as it is

The first game I'm planning on playing is Spiderman, and I'd imagine I'll be done with that in time to get at least €60 for it before Christmas if RRP across the board is €80

Parsnips

LauraW7746 wrote: »

To be honest I think €80 per game is a tad bit overpriced aswell, €75 I can deal with
I'm sure PS4 games were €70 at launch if I remember right
If I have to pay €80 for a game or 2 at launch ill get over it just to have them launch day but after that I will go back to Amazon, Argos and smyths - sometimes have a deal with €5 off for games PO for instore collection
Like even COD PS5 is €5 cheaper than GS

I was going to go for Cyberpunk on PS4 but I think Ill wait now until the ps5 version is released. that will probably be in the new year. Its a shame but Sony have Fooked with a lot of game sales now Ide say

RGARDINR

Parsnips wrote: »

I was going to go for Cyberpunk on PS4 but I think Ill wait now until the ps5 version is released. that will probably be in the new year. Its a shame but Sony have Fooked with a lot of game sales now Ide say

Will the new Xbox games be 80 as well for their new console? Or just sony for the PS5?

ShaneU

Parsnips wrote: »

I was going to go for Cyberpunk on PS4 but I think Ill wait now until the ps5 version is released. that will probably be in the new year. Its a shame but Sony have Fooked with a lot of game sales now Ide say

If you buy the ps4 version you get the ps5 version free

johnny_ultimate

RGARDINR wrote: »

Will the new Xbox games be 80 as well for their new console? Or just sony for the PS5?

Microsoft don’t really care if you buy new games - they just want you to pay 10 quid for GamePass every month. It’s almost negligible what the games cost to ‘buy’ because it’s all about the subscriptions for them now when it comes to first-party titles.

I think third party games across both consoles will be charged on a publisher by publisher basis.

J Mysterio

So, the PS5 releases on Nov 12th?

They will surely release extra stock in advance pf Christmas? Maybe early December?

I seem to remember this shıt happening every year? Basically there is always a short supply for launch and then more stock conveniently appears a couple of weeks later?

EoinMcLovin

J Mysterio wrote: »

So, the PS5 releases on Nov 12th?

They will surely release extra stock in advance pf Christmas? Maybe early December?

I seem to remember this shıt happening every year? Basically there is always a short supply for launch and then more stock conveniently appears a couple of weeks later?

Launches on the 19th here

johnny_ultimate

J Mysterio wrote: »

So, the PS5 releases on Nov 12th?

They will surely release extra stock in advance pf Christmas? Maybe early December?

I seem to remember this shıt happening every year? Basically there is always a short supply for launch and then more stock conveniently appears a couple of weeks later?

November 19th in Ireland.

Not sure about the word ‘conveniently’ here? It’s simply the nature of any sort of hardware production. You spend months producing an initial stockpile for launch to meet at least some of the demand. Then the production process is up and running and there’ll be a steady stream of new stock, until you eventually reach the point where there’s enough to keep up with all demand. Sometimes there can be seasonal demand, too - can sometimes be harder to get a console around Christmas, for example, even a year or two after release.

There’s no manufactured rarity here - if more stock shows up before Christmas, it’s simply because more stock has been produced and reached stores. This isn’t just limited to launch days - during the pandemic / around Animal Crossing release the demand for the Nintendo Switch soared, and it was hard to get your hands on a console for while (at least in the US) until stock levels stabilised. This is years after the console released - launch day for any new piece of bulky but in-demand hardware is always going to be like that.

Strumms

LauraW7746 wrote: »

To be honest I think €80 per game is a tad bit overpriced aswell, €75 I can deal with
I'm sure PS4 games were €70 at launch if I remember right
If I have to pay €80 for a game or 2 at launch ill get over it just to have them launch day but after that I will go back to Amazon, Argos and smyths - sometimes have a deal with €5 off for games PO for instore collection
Like even COD PS5 is €5 cheaper than GS

The price of games now is ridiculous. 80 euros is just a pisstake. I know a deal of development and testing and other costs like packaging are incurred but the physical product is costing only a handful of euros to make.

With the average RRP of the PS5 is 500 euros...Buying two new games, made of a small disc of plastic and metal is going to cost about a third of the price of the console... 32% actually.

Treating yourself to 5 new games is about 400 euros, 5 fûcking CD’s, consoles 500.

I wouldn’t be surprised if after Christmas the price of games and indeed the console drop by about 15 %.

[Deleted User]

I've pre ordered but between the backtrack of most launch titles now being cross gen and the price of the first releases I'm tempted to cancel and wait until 2021 when the catalogue is a bit beefier.

Homelander

I think MS going the route of Netflix for games is going to win out ultimately, it's a good strategy after the flop of the Xbox One launch. Pay €140 a year, and get tons of 1st party games at release and a huge back catalogue that'll include 3rd party games after a few months.

Like, basically, if you only played 2 games in the entire year, the sub is paid for. That was my rational on PC Game Pass. €10 a month, play 2 €40 games a month.

Varik

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

One benefit of rarely holding onto a game is the initial price doesn't matter as much, as annoying as it is

The first game I'm planning on playing is Spiderman, and I'd imagine I'll be done with that in time to get at least €60 for it before Christmas if RRP across the board is €80

The €80 version of miles Morales that comes with the original game has the original as a code, so that won't be €60 for a trade in.

SMC92Ian

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Souls always keeps its value. Look at Sekiro ffs, waiting for a good price since release and it dipped to 45 digitally a couple of times but still full price physically.

As for Spidey, the ultimate edition is on my list as i never played the dlc's and aling with MM, will be a nice present of santa. It should be released as a standalone on ps5 with free upgrade though and leave the dlc and MM to ultimate content.

Sekiro was €30 in Smyths a while back, I got it.

Also who is paying €70 for games? Must be only going to Gamestop.

Smyths and Argos have always been €55-60. No f'n way I'm paying €80 for a game!

Bobby Baccala

SMC92Ian wrote: »

Sekiro was €30 in Smyths a while back, I got it.

Also who is paying €70 for games? Must be only going to Gamestop.

Smyths and Argos have always been €55-60. No f'n way I'm paying €80 for a game!

I’ve paid 70 for a couple of games on the PlayStation store on release out of shear laziness, ghost of tsushima for one

How Soon Is Now

Finally got round to finishing God of War no better game to finish up my Ps4 pro with!.

Gonna hopefully drop the console and physical games into cex tomorrow and then it's back to the Switch till Ps5!

Zero-Cool

Varik wrote: »

The €80 version of miles Morales that comes with the original game has the original as a code, so that won't be €60 for a trade in.

Wow, i think paying 80 for a physical copy and just getting a code for the original game is worse than no free upgrade from 4 to 5, trade in value is screwed straight away. Sony really made a balls of Spidey cross gen. I still want to play it for original dlc and MM but will think about for a bit. Definitely not getting it at launch.

Then again, buying it, playing and being MM first and trading it asap might get you 30-40 cash in cex and you'll still have the original upgraded spidey with dlc. Hhhmmmm

loughrey

Any chance Smyths will do bundle deals on release day?

loughrey

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Finally got round to finishing God of War no better game to finish up my Ps4 pro with!.

Gonna hopefully drop the console and physical games into cex tomorrow and then it's back to the Switch till Ps5!

Yeah, I'm dropping my Xbox One S into Cex tomorrow with Modern Warfare for 170. Afraid it will plummet in price like the PS4 Pro did today.

loughrey

Bobby Baccala wrote: »

I’ve paid 70 for a couple of games on the PlayStation store on release out of shear laziness, ghost of tsushima for one

Smyths are now 75 for PS5 games. Last year I got Call of Duty Modern Warfare for 55 from Smyths, this year the new title is 70 for the PS4 and 75 for the PS5. Games have shot up in price this year, even for the old gen.

Sidford

If selling console to Cex assume it's one controller and if you have second controller that's additional cash? Looking at following alot of you and selling 1tb version with 2 controllers, back button and about 8 games so should get over 200.